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djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm I believe someone mentioned all of the PepperJax shops were sold some time back...
It took a predictable path: Successful local chain grows big enough to get national attention, chain gets bought, new owners rapidly open new locations while simultaneously cutting food costs as much as possible. So, you end up with a PepperJax on ever corner serving food that is just a shadow of what it used to be.

For me, it's mostly the bread. The original bread had a nice stretch/chew to it that also helped it stay together when soaked in steak juices. The new stuff is dry by comparison with no stretch and turns to mush. The meat feels a little less meatier than it used too. I'm not sure if that's due to a portion change, processing changes, or cheaper cuts of beef (or all three) but it's definitely less steaky.

We used to really enjoy going to PepperJax. Now, it rarely comes up when discussing meal options.
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm ...the original developer (from what I was told) was the same person that had owned Chartreuse Caboose that used to be across the street from NFM on 72nd.
Blast from the past! I haven't thought about Chartreuse Caboose in years. There used to be one in Bellevue off Galvin Road in University Plaza.
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm Anyway, you couldn't pay me to eat there again - I'd much rather go to HyVee or whatever other grocery stores sell that "Gary's Quick Steak" in the frozen section.
almighty_tuna wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:55 pm I'm good with buying Gary's QuickSteak (made in Omaha!) from Costco and using their Wow! seasoning. It's the OG Pepperjax.
They were giving out samples of Gary's QuickSteak at McKinney's Food Center in Gretna a few years back. It was pretty tasty stuff. I had sort of forgotten about it. I'll have to grab some next time I'm at the grocery store.
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almighty_tuna wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:55 pm I'm good with buying Gary's QuickSteak (made in Omaha!) from Costco and using their Wow! seasoning. It's the OG Pepperjax.
They sell it at Costco, too? Is it a bigger pack (and better value) than buying it from HyVee?
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ChadJK wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:56 pm

For me, it's mostly the bread. The original bread had a nice stretch/chew to it that also helped it stay together when soaked in steak juices. The new stuff is dry by comparison with no stretch and turns to mush. The meat feels a little less meatier than it used too. I'm not sure if that's due to a portion change, processing changes, or cheaper cuts of beef (or all three) but it's definitely less steaky.

We used to really enjoy going to PepperJax. Now, it rarely comes up when discussing meal options.
One day I was at HyVee and asked the deli counter about the bread they use on their in-house subs they make and sell ready to go. They said it's a Rotella hoagie and said I could buy them over the counter, 6 for $3.99. I get them from there pretty regularly now... I imagine Rotella probably sells the same thing in their bread store on 108th and Harrison. I should stop in there some time and see because their shop was significantly less expensive than the grocery stores in the past.

I think those hoagies are pretty chewy and tasty... definitely not dry (assuming you keep the bag sealed, LOL). I stick them in the oven on 400° for about 4-5mins to somewhat "toast" them then add the cheese, steak, etc. MUCH better than the PepperJax stuff for sure.
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djc311 wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:41 pm
almighty_tuna wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:55 pm I'm good with buying Gary's QuickSteak (made in Omaha!) from Costco and using their Wow! seasoning. It's the OG Pepperjax.
They sell it at Costco, too? Is it a bigger pack (and better value) than buying it from HyVee?
Yeah, it comes in a box of nine total 4oz portions and is WAY more economical than HyVee at $8.99/three 4oz portions. I think I paid around $15 at Costco for three of what HyVee sells.
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We ate at the new Pepperjax off of 72nd and Howard (next to Red Lobster) the other night. We used to be regular customers of the former location at 74th and Pacific, and really enjoyed the food and the atmosphere at the former location, which had two dining rooms and lots of historic photos of Omaha. The new location has ZERO atmosphere and no visible assembly line for the sandwiches. We waited 20 minutes for our meal after paying! The food was okay but I must say that “the thrill is gone”. Besides the extremely long wait the place just felt sterile. I won’t be back.
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nativeomahan wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:44 pm The new location has ZERO atmosphere and no visible assembly line for the sandwiches.
If it's all being done back in a kitchen now instead of the showy grill and chop they're known for, then I guess that's because they don't want to go to the labor of cooking up the meat for each customer. They'll make it in large batches instead and just spoon out a portion for each sandwich. I hope I'm wrong on that....
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I've had Pepperjax twice this year, which were the first times since about five years ago. I still enjoyed them quite a bit. And now all this talk is gonna force me to go to Hy-Vee and get that meat, and that's what I'll be eating tonight.
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ChadJK wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:58 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:44 pm The new location has ZERO atmosphere and no visible assembly line for the sandwiches.
If it's all being done back in a kitchen now instead of the showy grill and chop they're known for, then I guess that's because they don't want to go to the labor of cooking up the meat for each customer. They'll make it in large batches instead and just spoon out a portion for eat sandwich. I hope I'm wrong on that....
They must be taking that "show" away in the new stores - the one on 171st and Center still cooks the food in front of you along the line, so to speak. However, the ppl definitely weren't thrilled to be there - and it was just blah. Plus the food sucked.

I recall when they first opened they used to yell "Welcome to Pepperjax" when ppl came in the door - they also did that at Five Guys but I think they stopped that there, too.

Anyway, I won't go back to Pepperjax - made some at home the other day with that steak from the store. 200% better than PJ's stuff.
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nativeomahan wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:44 pm We ate at the new Pepperjax off of 72nd and Howard (next to Red Lobster) the other night. We used to be regular customers of the former location at 74th and Pacific, and really enjoyed the food and the atmosphere at the former location, which had two dining rooms and lots of historic photos of Omaha. The new location has ZERO atmosphere and no visible assembly line for the sandwiches. We waited 20 minutes for our meal after paying! The food was okay but I must say that “the thrill is gone”. Besides the extremely long wait the place just felt sterile. I won’t be back.
That was my experience the last time I ate there this summer as well (the 84St location in LaVista). I used to love going into the downtown location late at night and they were always flying while making the food and talking to customers, now it seemed no better than the employees at McDonalds, no eye contact and mediocre food.
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Yeah, it’s crazy how they stripped out all the atmosphere and think the food is going to carry them…. I’m interested to see the new location at Sapp Brothers to see how it is, I heard they moved the grill back up front for the dine in customers.
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ChadJK wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:56 pm
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm I believe someone mentioned all of the PepperJax shops were sold some time back...
It took a predictable path: Successful local chain grows big enough to get national attention, chain gets bought, new owners rapidly open new locations while simultaneously cutting food costs as much as possible. So, you end up with a PepperJax on ever corner serving food that is just a shadow of what it used to be.

For me, it's mostly the bread. The original bread had a nice stretch/chew to it that also helped it stay together when soaked in steak juices. The new stuff is dry by comparison with no stretch and turns to mush. The meat feels a little less meatier than it used too. I'm not sure if that's due to a portion change, processing changes, or cheaper cuts of beef (or all three) but it's definitely less steaky.

We used to really enjoy going to PepperJax. Now, it rarely comes up when discussing meal options.
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm ...the original developer (from what I was told) was the same person that had owned Chartreuse Caboose that used to be across the street from NFM on 72nd.
Blast from the past! I haven't thought about Chartreuse Caboose in years. There used to be one in Bellevue off Galvin Road in University Plaza.
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm Anyway, you couldn't pay me to eat there again - I'd much rather go to HyVee or whatever other grocery stores sell that "Gary's Quick Steak" in the frozen section.
almighty_tuna wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:55 pm I'm good with buying Gary's QuickSteak (made in Omaha!) from Costco and using their Wow! seasoning. It's the OG Pepperjax.
They were giving out samples of Gary's QuickSteak at McKinney's Food Center in Gretna a few years back. It was pretty tasty stuff. I had sort of forgotten about it. I'll have to grab some next time I'm at the grocery store.
PepperJax uses Gary’s QuickSteaks. They had a box of them on the counter by the grill. The junior jax uses Rotella buns (I believe the bag also said it was a French roll), so I’d assume they make the bigger buns too. The Wow seasoning included with the QuickSteaks is the same seasoning they use at PepperJax. The cheese is Swiss American. I used to make them all the time when I had my flat top. Only thing I was never able to nail exactly was the bun.

As for locations in Omaha go, the downtown location is hands down the best. They put the right amount of seasoning on, cook it properly, and aren’t stingy with the veggies. Other locations just can’t seem to get it right.
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EricHaley wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:34 am
ChadJK wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 7:56 pm
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm I believe someone mentioned all of the PepperJax shops were sold some time back...
It took a predictable path: Successful local chain grows big enough to get national attention, chain gets bought, new owners rapidly open new locations while simultaneously cutting food costs as much as possible. So, you end up with a PepperJax on ever corner serving food that is just a shadow of what it used to be.

For me, it's mostly the bread. The original bread had a nice stretch/chew to it that also helped it stay together when soaked in steak juices. The new stuff is dry by comparison with no stretch and turns to mush. The meat feels a little less meatier than it used too. I'm not sure if that's due to a portion change, processing changes, or cheaper cuts of beef (or all three) but it's definitely less steaky.

We used to really enjoy going to PepperJax. Now, it rarely comes up when discussing meal options.
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm ...the original developer (from what I was told) was the same person that had owned Chartreuse Caboose that used to be across the street from NFM on 72nd.
Blast from the past! I haven't thought about Chartreuse Caboose in years. There used to be one in Bellevue off Galvin Road in University Plaza.
djc311 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:20 pm Anyway, you couldn't pay me to eat there again - I'd much rather go to HyVee or whatever other grocery stores sell that "Gary's Quick Steak" in the frozen section.
almighty_tuna wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:55 pm I'm good with buying Gary's QuickSteak (made in Omaha!) from Costco and using their Wow! seasoning. It's the OG Pepperjax.
They were giving out samples of Gary's QuickSteak at McKinney's Food Center in Gretna a few years back. It was pretty tasty stuff. I had sort of forgotten about it. I'll have to grab some next time I'm at the grocery store.
PepperJax uses Gary’s QuickSteaks. They had a box of them on the counter by the grill. The junior jax uses Rotella buns (I believe the bag also said it was a French roll), so I’d assume they make the bigger buns too. The Wow seasoning included with the QuickSteaks is the same seasoning they use at PepperJax. The cheese is Swiss American. I used to make them all the time when I had my flat top. Only thing I was never able to nail exactly was the bun.

As for locations in Omaha go, the downtown location is hands down the best. They put the right amount of seasoning on, cook it properly, and aren’t stingy with the veggies. Other locations just can’t seem to get it right.
Thanks for the clarification on the way they prep it - however, I would never believe they seasoned it with the same seasoning I get in the little pouch with the meat. I just made some this weekend and hands down it killed the sandwich I paid a lot of $$$ for at the Far West Center Pepperjax. We won't be going back...

On a side note, my wife took our two girls to Olive Garden to eat dinner with some of her siblings last week and picked up one of those $6 alfredo take-home meals (when you buy another entree in the restaurant). With all their meals the total with tip was $46. We spend almost $52 at Pepperjax for the same # of meals. I wouldn't say Olive Garden is an amazing restaurant but I'd choose that over PJ.
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PepperJax grows out of teen years,
returns corporate flag to Omaha, where it all began

CINDY GONZALEZ, The Nebraska Examiner wrote:An Omaha-founded restaurant chain that for a time moved its headquarters out of Nebraska has returned its corporate flag to the city where it started 20 years ago. PepperJax Grill, positioning itself for area growth, bought and opened a nearly 4,000-square-foot building off 144th Street and Interstate 80 for its national operations and field team base, said Erin Palladino, chief operating officer. The stand-alone structure is near one of PepperJax’s newly opened Omaha area stores. Nationally, the fast-casual restaurant chain — which features the Philly cheesesteak sandwich and more, made to order in front of the customer — has about 30 stores in five states.
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"Workforce still a challenge"?

More like "making a good sandwich is still a challenge. Like I said, unless they significantly drop their prices AND make their food better, I won't go back. heck, it's changed hands like 3x in 6 years... what do they expect?

Of course, going back to one of my older posts - if it was in fact started by the same guy behind Chartreuse Caboose, he sold that off and then that bombed quickly, too. You can't blame the founder if the new owner fails, but unfortunately that's two for two so far.
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Coyote wrote: Wed Nov 02, 2022 12:03 pm
PepperJax grows out of teen years,
returns corporate flag to Omaha, where it all began

CINDY GONZALEZ, The Nebraska Examiner wrote:An Omaha-founded restaurant chain that for a time moved its headquarters out of Nebraska has returned its corporate flag to the city where it started 20 years ago. PepperJax Grill, positioning itself for area growth, bought and opened a nearly 4,000-square-foot building off 144th Street and Interstate 80 for its national operations and field team base, said Erin Palladino, chief operating officer. The stand-alone structure is near one of PepperJax’s newly opened Omaha area stores. Nationally, the fast-casual restaurant chain — which features the Philly cheesesteak sandwich and more, made to order in front of the customer — has about 30 stores in five states.
Lol. I thought it was BS when they rolled up their carpets 5 or so years ago to move to the “celestial paradise” of Denver Colorado… This is akin to young people, 18-20 years old, who can’t wait to “get out” of Omaha and live a more wonderful life- leaving Omaha (for Austin. Portland, Seattle, or whatever the popular trend city of the time may be)..Then waking up one morning at 23 or 24 and realizing their best life was when they lived IN Omaha, and inevitably moving back..

We’ll forgive you this time Pepperjax..Just don’t try and fool us a 2nd time :lafcry: …

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:18 pm

Lol. I thought it was BS when they rolled up their carpets 5 or so years ago to move to the “celestial paradise” of Denver Colorado… This is akin to young people, 18-20 years old, who can’t wait to “get out” of Omaha and live a more wonderful life- leaving Omaha (for Austin. Portland, Seattle, or whatever the popular trend city of the time may be)..Then waking up one morning at 23 or 24 and realizing their best life was when they lived IN Omaha, and inevitably moving back..

We’ll forgive you this time Pepperjax..Just don’t try and fool us a 2nd time :lafcry: …

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Haha, well put....I have quite a few of those friends.
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skinzfan23 wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:21 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:18 pm

Lol. I thought it was BS when they rolled up their carpets 5 or so years ago to move to the “celestial paradise” of Denver Colorado… This is akin to young people, 18-20 years old, who can’t wait to “get out” of Omaha and live a more wonderful life- leaving Omaha (for Austin. Portland, Seattle, or whatever the popular trend city of the time may be)..Then waking up one morning at 23 or 24 and realizing their best life was when they lived IN Omaha, and inevitably moving back..

We’ll forgive you this time Pepperjax..Just don’t try and fool us a 2nd time :lafcry: …

Ciao..LiO…Peace
Haha, well put....I have quite a few of those friends.
Thanks! As do I. Honestly so many I’ve lost count, lol…

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EricHaley wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:34 am PepperJax uses Gary’s QuickSteaks. They had a box of them on the counter by the grill. The junior jax uses Rotella buns (I believe the bag also said it was a French roll), so I’d assume they make the bigger buns too. The Wow seasoning included with the QuickSteaks is the same seasoning they use at PepperJax.
That's because the Gary's QuickSteaks guy created the PepperJax chain!
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Erin Palladino, any relation to the dead Omaha slumlord guy?

Has anything changed with their corporation to make them any more of a Nebraska business? Are they just moving back to Omaha for cheaper rent? Unless something has changed, I still will never set foot inside. I used to be a once a week person 10 years ago.
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TransitOriented wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:07 pm Erin Palladino, any relation to the dead Omaha slumlord guy?

Has anything changed with their corporation to make them any more of a Nebraska business? Are they just moving back to Omaha for cheaper rent? Unless something has changed, I still will never set foot inside. I used to be a once a week person 10 years ago.
I agree - moving an office back to the city/state where a company was started doesn't magically make it a "Nebraska" business again. Actually they seem to be retaining other offices outside of Omaha - which is good for anyone employed there, but it's not like they're moving the entire company here.

It also doesn't change who owns and operates it nor how it's going to be operated.

Their new signage and freestanding stores may look nice, but the food sucks. Service was "eh"...

Actually, I miss Great Steak and Potato at Westroads - before Pepperjax was around, I would go there weekly. I was excited for Pepperjax when it was good. I actually think I'd prefer a Big Mac or McRib over a sandwich from PJ's.
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djc311 wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:42 pm Actually, I miss Great Steak and Potato at Westroads - before Pepperjax was around, I would go there weekly. I was excited for Pepperjax when it was good. I actually think I'd prefer a Big Mac or McRib over a sandwich from PJ's.
I had a cheesesteak at Charley's a while back and it was pretty darn tasty. I think they have two locations in the Omaha area. One at Oak View Mall's food court and one on Offutt AFB, but it's been a while since I checked either.
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ChadJK wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:01 pm
djc311 wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 3:42 pm Actually, I miss Great Steak and Potato at Westroads - before Pepperjax was around, I would go there weekly. I was excited for Pepperjax when it was good. I actually think I'd prefer a Big Mac or McRib over a sandwich from PJ's.
I had a cheesesteak at Charley's a while back and it was pretty darn tasty. I think they have two locations in the Omaha area. One at Oak View Mall's food court and one on Offutt AFB, but it's been a while since I checked either.
Is it Jersey Mike's that makes a Philly, too? I've never eaten there, not too convenient for us. I'm sure that's the place Danny DeVito is pimping on TV commercials.
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djc311 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 4:06 pm Is it Jersey Mike's that makes a Philly, too? I've never eaten there, not too convenient for us. I'm sure that's the place Danny DeVito is pimping on TV commercials.
Jersey Mike's and Penn Station both make them.
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I feel I have to say, I don't get the criticism... I hadn't had PepperJax in a good long while, until this year when I had it twice. And both times, it was lip smacking good. And on top of it, I also have made it at home twice, and the exact same result... So I don't get how if they have always used the same meat, and the same seasoning, how could it be any different? How is it better if I buy the Quick Steak and make it at home, than if I order it at the restaurant. Its literally the same thing. And IMO, its never been better or worse. I need answers :gun:
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Busguy2010 wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:38 pm I feel I have to say, I don't get the criticism... I hadn't had PepperJax in a good long while, until this year when I had it twice. And both times, it was lip smacking good. And on top of it, I also have made it at home twice, and the exact same result... So I don't get how if they have always used the same meat, and the same seasoning, how could it be any different? How is it better if I buy the Quick Steak and make it at home, than if I order it at the restaurant. Its literally the same thing. And IMO, its never been better or worse. I need answers :gun:
I can say from my personal experience the sandwich was NOTHING like what I make at home with the Quick Steak product and seasoning. I don’t know if PJ has changed their recipe or seasoning, or if their grill was nasty with previously cooked food or what - but it was definitely not the same.

Could it have been a fluke? I suppose as I haven’t gone back to give it another try. However I won’t be doing that considering how disappointed we were this last time. I enjoy going out for meals, and I also enjoy cooking at home. I can easily say with the atmosphere (or lack thereof) at 175th & Center, there’s no reason to go back. They had dust all over their duct work, several burnt out light bulbs (or at least ones that didn’t work for some reason) and two TVs that weren’t turned on around noon on a Saturday during college football season.

For the cost of our lunch I could make the “same” sandwich at home 3x. Oh, and the fries were bland.

Have I had worse meals? Sure - but I’m not feeding my family for almost $60 at lunch at PJ. We can eat at many other places in town with much better food for the same or even less.
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I tried the at home method again, and I tried the aforementioned Quick Steak, and Rotella hoagie bun, and I can tell you that's not it, at least the bun. From the look of it, the bun PepperJax actually uses might be the French roll, but I couldn't find that anywhere in the stores. Usually I do think that the way I whip it up at home is somehow better than what you get at the restaurant, but this time has me thinking otherwise. With the Quick Steak, the meat was really tough, it needed about twice the seasoning they give you, and the hoagie bun sucked. All that makes me think whether you get a good one or a bad one at PepperJax, its all just a luck of the draw. And now I don't really think location to location really matters, its the luck of whether the supplier gives consistently good product to any particular location.

Bottom line is I had PepperJax twice this year, and it rocked! I had the home equivalent of Quick Steak twice, and the first two times it also rocked, but this time, it sucked. So I think it can happen either at home or in the restaurant.
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nebugeater wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:39 pm
nativeomahan wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:27 pm Are my more metro stores planned?
There is one being built in Gretna near the Fairway and Caseys. Small footprint. Wonder if the one at Nebraska Crossing will close?
I stopped by to see if they had any signage up about when they'd be opening. They do. They're opening Sunday, November 27th.

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I did get a chance to eat at the new PepperJax in Gretna and I will say that quality seems to have improved. The meat was meaty. A level scoop of the seasoning was the right amount (not overly salty nor bland). The bread had a great texture and held up to the meat juice. Overall, a decent improvement over my last few meals at that chain.

I will say, the Gretna location and most of its employees are very new. So, when you're used to seeing experienced PepperJax grill cooks slicing and dicing the meat in a flurry of motion it's a little painful to watch these new hires clumsily prepare it. It was a good experience and they're working hard, but it was a little amusing to see. lol
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I stumbled upon another shaved steak at Target of all places. It doesn't come with seasoning, but I had a pouch from a Gary's Quick Steak package at home. So I gave it a whirl... and I will have to say the Target meat was much better, IMO, than the Gary's steak. I do like Gary's steak, but it is a little chewy, I think maybe has a little more fat... it's still very good but I was pretty impressed with the meat sold at Target.

I've also found you can buy the Gary's seasoning in a bottle by itself online - I haven't come across it at a local retailer yet.

So now my plan is to buy the meat from Target a few more times and use the Gary's seasoning to create my own meal.

I still really like the Rotella hoagie rolls I was buying from behind the counter at Hy-Vee's deli, but the last 3 times I've asked for them they've told me they didn't have any... weird.

Anyway, if you want to see what the meat looks like at Target, you can check here:

https://www.target.com/p/old-neighborho ... nk=sametab
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djc311 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:05 pm I stumbled upon another shaved steak at Target of all places. It doesn't come with seasoning, but I had a pouch from a Gary's Quick Steak package at home. So I gave it a whirl... and I will have to say the Target meat was much better, IMO, than the Gary's steak. I do like Gary's steak, but it is a little chewy, I think maybe has a little more fat... it's still very good but I was pretty impressed with the meat sold at Target.

I've also found you can buy the Gary's seasoning in a bottle by itself online - I haven't come across it at a local retailer yet.

So now my plan is to buy the meat from Target a few more times and use the Gary's seasoning to create my own meal.

I still really like the Rotella hoagie rolls I was buying from behind the counter at Hy-Vee's deli, but the last 3 times I've asked for them they've told me they didn't have any... weird.

Anyway, if you want to see what the meat looks like at Target, you can check here:

https://www.target.com/p/old-neighborho ... nk=sametab
Not all the time but you can get the Rotella Hoagie rolls at the store right at the Rotella bakery quite often.
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Went to the Pepperjax on 120 & Blondo today. Its been recently remodeled. Basically stripped all the character out of it and looks like the new stores now. I noticed they have also decommissioned the bun slide. Wall separating the eating area from the line and grill areas is gone, booths are all gone, all the Omaha photos are gone, TV's are all gone, condiment area is gone. Place was dirty too, that sneeze guard by the grill was greasy and dirty, had cheese from a previous day dried on it!
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Brad wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:03 pm Went to the Pepperjax on 120 & Blondo today. Its been recently remodeled. Basically stripped all the character out of it and looks like the new stores now. I noticed they have also decommissioned the bun slide. Wall separating the eating area from the line and grill areas is gone, booths are all gone, all the Omaha photos are gone, TV's are all gone, condiment area is gone. Place was dirty too, that sneeze guard by the grill was greasy and dirty, had cheese from a previous day dried on it!
See? This is what happens when you move the headquarters out of Denver, where the best and the brightest in the restaurant industry live.

Seriously, it's a sad state of affairs. When I lived in Omaha I loved Pepperjax. It was relatively new and the quality was outstanding. I wonder who the genius was who said the above was a good idea. Cleanliness and health should be job 1. I'd suggest a call to the local health dept.
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At this rate, this place is going to go off the map. Too little, too late, imo. I won’t go back based upon our last experience; food was sub par, prices were ridiculous and the ambiance was non existent.
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Anybody remember the Chartroose Caboose?
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bbinks wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:54 pm Anybody remember the Chartroose Caboose?
Yeah, I think we discussed earlier in this thread or a different thread that the founders of Pepperjax were the same people behind Chartroose Caboose. We went there when I was a kid in the 80's, up on North 90th street.
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This will now make my eyelid twitch. Was it Chartreuse Caboose or Chartroose Caboose?
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Brad wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:56 pm
bbinks wrote: Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:54 pm Anybody remember the Chartroose Caboose?
Yeah, I think we discussed earlier in this thread or a different thread that the founders of Pepperjax were the same people behind Chartroose Caboose. We went there when I was a kid in the 80's, up on North 90th street.
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Brad wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:03 pm Went to the Pepperjax on 120 & Blondo today. Its been recently remodeled. Basically stripped all the character out of it and looks like the new stores now. I noticed they have also decommissioned the bun slide. Wall separating the eating area from the line and grill areas is gone, booths are all gone, all the Omaha photos are gone, TV's are all gone, condiment area is gone. Place was dirty too, that sneeze guard by the grill was greasy and dirty, had cheese from a previous day dried on it!
To be honest, when I first read this post, I thought about how if this note was left on the Omaha Food Lovers Facebook page, you would have been chastised and maligned for posting such a comment and not going to management to voice your concerns instead. I know that OFL is highly revered on this forum since Stacy Winters is a semi-regular guest on Grow Omaha. But that's why I stopped visiting the OFL group because of all the fervor about how every post about a business must be positive. Negative reviews only create instant hatred to commenters. You will commonly see a hundred posts about how a restaurant is "life-changing" and "awesome", but if you dare say that a restaurant is "meh", holy hellfire will descend on you. I sincerely believe that these "always positive" reviews on OFL are what's causing these big runs on restaurants, Church's Chicken, Crumbl Cookie and others have such massive business for months after opening. Everyone keeps glowingly reviewing these places, and saying that a cooking isn't good enough to be priced at $5 will get you instantly slaughtered by OFL admins and other posters.
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SoPo wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:53 am To be honest, when I first read this post, I thought about how if this note was left on the Omaha Food Lovers Facebook page, you would have been chastised and maligned for posting such a comment and not going to management to voice your concerns instead.
If it was a small locally owned joint, I would have messaged them first. However, over the years I have had ZERO luck in giving feedback to these fast casual chains. Most don't even acknowledge your message, and the few that do say something canned like "Thanks for vising us, sorry you experience didn't meet your expectations", and the feedback that you give them is never resolved. One of the Burrito Places here in town had a nasty amount of dust hanging on the vent above the food line. I messaged them several times saying, "you should really clean that vent" and they never did. I understand how hard it is to run a restaurant, I did it for years. But I can tell you if I got a comment from a customer saying "This _______ is dirty", I would have been up on a ladder that night cleaning it.
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SoPo wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:53 am To be honest, when I first read this post, I thought about how if this note was left on the Omaha Food Lovers Facebook page, you would have been chastised and maligned for posting such a comment and not going to management to voice your concerns instead. I know that OFL is highly revered on this forum since Stacy Winters is a semi-regular guest on Grow Omaha. But that's why I stopped visiting the OFL group because of all the fervor about how every post about a business must be positive. Negative reviews only create instant hatred to commenters. You will commonly see a hundred posts about how a restaurant is "life-changing" and "awesome", but if you dare say that a restaurant is "meh", holy hellfire will descend on you. I sincerely believe that these "always positive" reviews on OFL are what's causing these big runs on restaurants, Church's Chicken, Crumbl Cookie and others have such massive business for months after opening. Everyone keeps glowingly reviewing these places, and saying that a cooking isn't good enough to be priced at $5 will get you instantly slaughtered by OFL admins and other posters.
Personally, I want people's HONEST and RAW opinion.

I was acquainted with a guy that ran a fairly popular and very active Facebook foodie group and I was jokingly giving him shìt about how they delete all of the negative posts and comments. He said he got a lot of advice and did some research as he was getting the group going and the consensus was to allow positive posts and comments only. Otherwise, the group rapidly degenerates into an incessant bìtchfest and that will hinder its growth. That degeneration seems to be especially true with foodie groups. I can see the wisdom in that as, back when I was still on Facebook, I can think of several groups where all anyone did was complain about this or that. Negative experiences seem to be much more motivating than positive experiences when it comes to posting online. A lot of people shy away from direct confrontation. So, they're much more likely to complain about a negative experience online than to ask to speak with the manager in-person. It doesn't help that we now label anyone we see complaining in-person as a "Karen," record them without their consent, and then post it online to be laughed at by the masses. Given that I wouldn't complain in-person either. Funny enough, on Facebook someone usually just goes and creates a duplicate group and adds the word "Uncensored" to the name. There's probably an "Omaha Food Lovers Uncensored" group started by someone that had one too many complaints deleted.

That said, I also think there's this toxic positivity that's common in online forums where nobody is allowed to complain about anything. At best you can lightly complain, but only if you temper it with a lot of praise too. It comes from a good place. The mods don't want the forum descending into nothing but complaints and negativity (who wants to be a part of that?). I see it a lot with professional food critics. They only seem to write positive reviews. At worst, they'll write a lukewarm review. You'll rarely see a professional review published that just trashes a restaurant due to a horrible experience. Think of it as the food critic version of, "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all." It's very prevalent in online forums too where any complaints are removed or the post is flooded with comments chastising them for complaining (or for complaining online instead of speaking with the business owner). They don't want to hear about the places you don't like only the places you do like. About the best you can get away with is, "It's not for me, but you should definitely give it a try!" I liken that style of moderation to those avid church-goers who mainly do church-sponsored activities, send their kids to church schools or homeschool them, primarily consume church-approved media, and all of their friends are from church. They don't live in reality. They live in a little church bubble. Sometimes mods are (knowingly or unknowingly) trying to make their forum a little bubble too.

Sure, some people are just negative and, as previously noted, are only motivated to post when they have a bad experience. You quickly figure out who those people are and to take their complaint du jour with a grain of salt. Also, a lot of complaints are oddly specific. Like, the entire restaurant is the worst restaurant ever because they forget my request for no onions. It's absurd to make the leap from a minor mistake to a restaurant being horrible as a result. I quickly dismiss those types of posts. I've never not patronized a business because one or two people were ranting about it as I don't consider that a consensus on how good or bad the business is. There's certainly restaurants I enjoy that it seems like everyone else hates.