9 Lincoln Park

[Linkin5]

The building looks great. Assuming the NIMBYs lose, the drive into downtown on I-180 will be quite the entrance (it’s already pretty solid!).

I don’t think the neighbors opposing it will impact anything, the real challenge will be securing enough condo buyers.

[Doctor Fate]

The building looks great. Assuming the NIMBYs lose, the drive into downtown on I-180 will be quite the entrance (it’s already pretty solid!).

I don’t think the neighbors opposing it will impact anything, the real challenge will be securing enough condo buyers.

A family friend is a Lincoln city councilman,l and he said the threshold for demolition and site remediation is 50% of condos pres-sold and they were at 40% several months ago.

[Louie]

The building looks great. Assuming the NIMBYs lose, the drive into downtown on I-180 will be quite the entrance (it’s already pretty solid!).

I don’t think the neighbors opposing it will impact anything, the real challenge will be securing enough condo buyers.

A family friend is a Lincoln city councilman,l and he said the threshold for demolition and site remediation is 50% of condos pres-sold and they were at 40% several months ago.

Well thats certainly promising

[Linkin5]

There was another article today in the LJS featuring neighbors that are upset about this building’s location. They (Jon Camp) keep saying things like the building will stick out “like a sore thumb” in the Haymarket area. They say this while the proposed building sits across from the 16 story Graduate Hotel, and the 13 story building under construction across the street. If you oppose the building, fine. But at least don’t be disingenuous with your arguments.

[edsas2]

There was another article today in the LJS featuring neighbors that are upset about this building’s location. They (Jon Camp) keep saying things like the building will stick out “like a sore thumb” in the Haymarket area. They say this while the proposed building sits across from the 16 story Graduate Hotel, and the 13 story building under construction across the street. If you oppose the building, fine. But at least don’t be disingenuous with your arguments.

Totally. This will enhance the neighborhood beyond anything I could have imagined while attending UNL back in the 1990s. If this project gets off and ends up anywhere close to realizing what the renderings show, standing on the corner of 10th and P in the near future will make Lincoln seem almost unrecognizable from just 15 years ago.

[edsas2]

Also, the building will be on the very edge of the Haymarket (just like Graduate). It's not like they're putting it dead center. Standing in 90% of the Haymarket, you won't even be able to see it. You'll have the experience of turning a corner in this quaint 19th Century renovated warehouse district and seeing a gleaming modern highrise overhead. The kind of dynamic urban experience people in places like Chicago experience on the reg -- and makes for just a more interesting life by merely walking your neighborhood. What's wrong with that?

[Nomad9]

On top of those arguments…who cares? Why does it matter that some people think a building is or isn’t visually attractive where it’s proposed to be built?

Edit: And I really wish the Journal would stop giving these people airtime.

[ita]

Also, the building will be on the very edge of the Haymarket (just like Graduate). It's not like they're putting it dead center. Standing in 90% of the Haymarket, you won't even be able to see it. You'll have the experience of turning a corner in this quaint 19th Century renovated warehouse district and seeing a gleaming modern highrise overhead. The kind of dynamic urban experience people in places like Chicago experience on the reg -- and makes for just a more interesting life by merely walking your neighborhood. What's wrong with that?

Just went to Chicago and noticed the same thing. Complaints about this project or the 9 story in Blackstone fly contrary to how cities like Chicago have done it. It was not off-putting at all and was much nicer than having a ridiculous amount of surface parking throughout the downtown core.

Just want to say, heck yeah, Lincoln! I love that they are getting this type of development in their downtown. Three high rise residential projects, really skyline enhancing, is awesome, not just for a city their size. Neither Omaha nor Des Moines can boast the same.

Not to sully this thread too badly, but why is Lincoln seeing this type of development where Omaha can only manage 4/5+1's downtown? Are investors/developers in Lincoln more ambitious, visionary? Are our real estate markets that much different? Are costs of developing or planning/approval process easier in the capital?

[Louie]

Also, the building will be on the very edge of the Haymarket (just like Graduate). It's not like they're putting it dead center. Standing in 90% of the Haymarket, you won't even be able to see it. You'll have the experience of turning a corner in this quaint 19th Century renovated warehouse district and seeing a gleaming modern highrise overhead. The kind of dynamic urban experience people in places like Chicago experience on the reg -- and makes for just a more interesting life by merely walking your neighborhood. What's wrong with that?

Just went to Chicago and noticed the same thing. Complaints about this project or the 9 story in Blackstone fly contrary to how cities like Chicago have done it. It was not off-putting at all and was much nicer than having a ridiculous amount of surface parking throughout the downtown core.

Just want to say, heck yeah, Lincoln! I love that they are getting this type of development in their downtown. Three high rise residential projects, really skyline enhancing, is awesome, not just for a city their size. Neither Omaha nor Des Moines can boast the same.

Not to sully this thread too badly, but why is Lincoln seeing this type of development where Omaha can only manage 4/5+1's downtown? Are investors/developers in Lincoln more ambitious, visionary? Are our real estate markets that much different? Are costs of developing or planning/approval process easier in the capital?

I'm sure it can be traced to the Capitol and UNL's proximity to the area. But a good thought topic nonetheless.

[Doctor Fate]

Also, the building will be on the very edge of the Haymarket (just like Graduate). It's not like they're putting it dead center. Standing in 90% of the Haymarket, you won't even be able to see it. You'll have the experience of turning a corner in this quaint 19th Century renovated warehouse district and seeing a gleaming modern highrise overhead. The kind of dynamic urban experience people in places like Chicago experience on the reg -- and makes for just a more interesting life by merely walking your neighborhood. What's wrong with that?

Just went to Chicago and noticed the same thing. Complaints about this project or the 9 story in Blackstone fly contrary to how cities like Chicago have done it. It was not off-putting at all and was much nicer than having a ridiculous amount of surface parking throughout the downtown core.

Just want to say, heck yeah, Lincoln! I love that they are getting this type of development in their downtown. Three high rise residential projects, really skyline enhancing, is awesome, not just for a city their size. Neither Omaha nor Des Moines can boast the same.

Not to sully this thread too badly, but why is Lincoln seeing this type of development where Omaha can only manage 4/5+1's downtown? Are investors/developers in Lincoln more ambitious, visionary? Are our real estate markets that much different? Are costs of developing or planning/approval process easier in the capital?

Someone I know in the Omaha commercial real estate area said that Lincoln has a lot of people both in and out of town that buy investment real estate downtown for Husker games.

[Louie]

Someone I know in the Omaha commercial real estate area said that Lincoln has a lot of people both in and out of town that buy investment real estate downtown for Husker games.

That's certainly believable.

[Garrett]

Also, the building will be on the very edge of the Haymarket (just like Graduate). It's not like they're putting it dead center. Standing in 90% of the Haymarket, you won't even be able to see it. You'll have the experience of turning a corner in this quaint 19th Century renovated warehouse district and seeing a gleaming modern highrise overhead. The kind of dynamic urban experience people in places like Chicago experience on the reg -- and makes for just a more interesting life by merely walking your neighborhood. What's wrong with that?

Just went to Chicago and noticed the same thing. Complaints about this project or the 9 story in Blackstone fly contrary to how cities like Chicago have done it. It was not off-putting at all and was much nicer than having a ridiculous amount of surface parking throughout the downtown core.

Just want to say, heck yeah, Lincoln! I love that they are getting this type of development in their downtown. Three high rise residential projects, really skyline enhancing, is awesome, not just for a city their size. Neither Omaha nor Des Moines can boast the same.

Not to sully this thread too badly, but why is Lincoln seeing this type of development where Omaha can only manage 4/5+1's downtown? Are investors/developers in Lincoln more ambitious, visionary? Are our real estate markets that much different? Are costs of developing or planning/approval process easier in the capital?

Someone I know in the Omaha commercial real estate area said that Lincoln has a lot of people both in and out of town that buy investment real estate downtown for Husker games.

That’s among the most Nebraskan things I’ve ever heard.

[buildomaha]

Also, the building will be on the very edge of the Haymarket (just like Graduate). It's not like they're putting it dead center. Standing in 90% of the Haymarket, you won't even be able to see it. You'll have the experience of turning a corner in this quaint 19th Century renovated warehouse district and seeing a gleaming modern highrise overhead. The kind of dynamic urban experience people in places like Chicago experience on the reg -- and makes for just a more interesting life by merely walking your neighborhood. What's wrong with that?

Just went to Chicago and noticed the same thing. Complaints about this project or the 9 story in Blackstone fly contrary to how cities like Chicago have done it. It was not off-putting at all and was much nicer than having a ridiculous amount of surface parking throughout the downtown core.

Just want to say, heck yeah, Lincoln! I love that they are getting this type of development in their downtown. Three high rise residential projects, really skyline enhancing, is awesome, not just for a city their size. Neither Omaha nor Des Moines can boast the same.

Not to sully this thread too badly, but why is Lincoln seeing this type of development where Omaha can only manage 4/5+1's downtown? Are investors/developers in Lincoln more ambitious, visionary? Are our real estate markets that much different? Are costs of developing or planning/approval process easier in the capital?

I can confirm that one the developer’s main goals was to create a skyline altering building to show that Lincoln IS bold and forward looking.

I will also say, much of the concern over traffic and parking for these residents is unnecessary, as the type of buyers the condos are being developed for will occupy the units on the few days a year there are husker football home games, and only those few days a year…

[Coyote]

Lincoln Bold developers aim to secure $24 million in TIF for planned high-rise

LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) - The Lincoln City Council is set to make a major decision for the future of Lincoln’s largest ever private building project on Monday. The Lincoln Bold High-Rise could soon loom large over the Haymarket, especially if the council authorizes $24 million in Tax-Increment Financing, also known as TIF money. The proposed building site is located at Melichar’s 66 Sales and Service, a longtime Lincoln business just at the edge of the historic Haymarket. As early as August of 2023, the lot could start transforming into the home of Lincoln’s second tallest building. “We’re making the largest investment in the city of Lincoln at Ninth and P, and we believe in Lincoln,” said Steve Glenn, a Lincoln Bold developer.

[Nomad9]

Lincoln Bold developers aim to secure $24 million in TIF for planned high-rise

LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) - The Lincoln City Council is set to make a major decision for the future of Lincoln’s largest ever private building project on Monday. The Lincoln Bold High-Rise could soon loom large over the Haymarket, especially if the council authorizes $24 million in Tax-Increment Financing, also known as TIF money. The proposed building site is located at Melichar’s 66 Sales and Service, a longtime Lincoln business just at the edge of the historic Haymarket. As early as August of 2023, the lot could start transforming into the home of Lincoln’s second tallest building. “We’re making the largest investment in the city of Lincoln at Ninth and P, and we believe in Lincoln,” said Steve Glenn, a Lincoln Bold developer.

Great news! Glad the city council didn’t surrender to NIMBY demands.

[Doctor Fate]

Lincoln Bold developers aim to secure $24 million in TIF for planned high-rise

LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) - The Lincoln City Council is set to make a major decision for the future of Lincoln’s largest ever private building project on Monday. The Lincoln Bold High-Rise could soon loom large over the Haymarket, especially if the council authorizes $24 million in Tax-Increment Financing, also known as TIF money. The proposed building site is located at Melichar’s 66 Sales and Service, a longtime Lincoln business just at the edge of the historic Haymarket. As early as August of 2023, the lot could start transforming into the home of Lincoln’s second tallest building. “We’re making the largest investment in the city of Lincoln at Ninth and P, and we believe in Lincoln,” said Steve Glenn, a Lincoln Bold developer.

Great news! Glad the city council didn’t surrender to NIMBY museums.

City Council member told they would be "shocked" if this didn't pass and that the project has good momentum.

[Nomad9]

Lincoln Bold developers aim to secure $24 million in TIF for planned high-rise

LINCOLN, Neb. (KOLN) - The Lincoln City Council is set to make a major decision for the future of Lincoln’s largest ever private building project on Monday. The Lincoln Bold High-Rise could soon loom large over the Haymarket, especially if the council authorizes $24 million in Tax-Increment Financing, also known as TIF money. The proposed building site is located at Melichar’s 66 Sales and Service, a longtime Lincoln business just at the edge of the historic Haymarket. As early as August of 2023, the lot could start transforming into the home of Lincoln’s second tallest building. “We’re making the largest investment in the city of Lincoln at Ninth and P, and we believe in Lincoln,” said Steve Glenn, a Lincoln Bold developer.

Great news! Glad the city council didn’t surrender to NIMBY museums.

City Council member told they would be "shocked" if this didn't pass and that the project has good momentum.

Seems like this city council is pretty development friendly, which is refreshing.

Also meant *demands* not museums…

[Duggers_Dad]

Seems like a go ?

https://www.kfornow.com/city-council-ap ... d-project/

[thenewguy]

seems like opponents of 9 Linkin Park are afraid that a possible shortage in patronage will have them crawling in their skin.

[Doctor Fate]

According to this article construction will start late summer or early fall on this. Called Lincoln Bold, with office space 70 luxury apartments and 33 condos.

[Duggers_Dad]

I really prefer this redesign.

[Linkin5]

Article published last week, looks like this project will be downsized due to rising material/labor costs and interest rates rising.

[Louie]

Article published last week, looks like this project will be downsized due to rising material/labor costs and interest rates rising.

Wonder how extreme the downsizing will be.

[Linkin5]

Not surprising project is on hold due to interest rates.

[PotatoeEatsFish]

Rip

[WiinterU]

Okay, no comments in basically dead at this point. The site is now a field of sod due to interest rates failing to fall. It was recently downsized to about 250 feet, which still fails to meet the definition of a skyscraper, 450 feet or higher. It would be nice to have this tower, but I really want to see it be over a height of 300 when interest rates fall.

[GenX]

Okay, no comments in basically dead at this point. The site is now a field of sod due to interest rates failing to fall. It was recently downsized to about 250 feet, which still fails to meet the definition of a skyscraper, 450 feet or higher. It would be nice to have this tower, but I really want to see it be over a height of 300 when interest rates fall.

In downtown Lincoln, the maximum building height is generally set at 285 feet. However, there is a specific area in the B-4 Lincoln Center Business District where the maximum height is 275 feet. These height restrictions are in place to protect the view of the Nebraska State Capitol and to maintain a sense of scale within the downtown area.

[Bob from Omaha]

I thought they got rid of the Capitol Vista restrictions?

[Linkin5]

I thought they got rid of the Capitol Vista restrictions?

No they are still in place. I doubt they ever get removed.