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Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:38 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:16 pm
OmahaJaysCU wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:06 pm I have a potentially negative update. Heard Medical Solutions is in talks with a development company about a new office, 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the 400,000 sf referenced in here.

And it’s in west Omaha. (Sorry don’t shoot the messenger!)
Interesting. I’ll be talking with my cryptic rumor source who indicated to me several weeks ago that Medical Solutions was moving their operations to The Mercantile. This is a rock solid source. But we know things can change.. I’ll see if I can garner any additional intel, as I haven’t heard of any new west Omaha move..

We’ll see…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Did the CRD ever say anything about this?

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:23 am

Npdodger12 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:01 pm This development is still going to happen. The project is still evolving. One office tenant has pulled out, and two other office tenants will be taking their place, with additional office space required to meet their needs. An announcement probably won’t come until summer.

I guess this goes along with Medical Solutions staying/moving west.

skip · Post by **skip** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:56 am

Npdodger12 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:01 pm This development is still going to happen. The project is still evolving. One office tenant has pulled out, and two other office tenants will be taking their place, with additional office space required to meet their needs. An announcement probably won’t come until summer.

thanks for the update Npdodger12! any other insight so far?

djc311 · Post by **djc311** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:51 pm

skip wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:56 am
Npdodger12 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:01 pm This development is still going to happen. The project is still evolving. One office tenant has pulled out, and two other office tenants will be taking their place, with additional office space required to meet their needs. An announcement probably won’t come until summer.
thanks for the update Npdodger12! any other insight so far?

Yes... I've found out some additional intel:

Miss Lippy's car is green
Billy likes to drink soda

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:54 pm

djc311 wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 5:51 pm
skip wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 10:56 am
Npdodger12 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:01 pm This development is still going to happen. The project is still evolving. One office tenant has pulled out, and two other office tenants will be taking their place, with additional office space required to meet their needs. An announcement probably won’t come until summer.
thanks for the update Npdodger12! any other insight so far?
Yes... I've found out some additional intel:

Miss Lippy's car is green
Billy likes to drink soda

How bout you sideburns? You want some of this milk?

Id rather have a beer.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:09 pm

Doctor Fate wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:38 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:16 pm
OmahaJaysCU wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:06 pm I have a potentially negative update. Heard Medical Solutions is in talks with a development company about a new office, 1/3 to 1/2 the size of the 400,000 sf referenced in here.

And it’s in west Omaha. (Sorry don’t shoot the messenger!)
Interesting. I’ll be talking with my cryptic rumor source who indicated to me several weeks ago that Medical Solutions was moving their operations to The Mercantile. This is a rock solid source. But we know things can change.. I’ll see if I can garner any additional intel, as I haven’t heard of any new west Omaha move..

We’ll see…

Ciao..LiO…Peace
Did the CRD ever say anything about this?

No updates as of now..

The ship likely sailed on this. As rumors go, you win some and lose some..

But as always, we’ll see…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:41 am

Supposedly Medical Solutions has signed an agreement with their current Landlord (Cizek Homes, who does lots of suburban office buildings) to build them a new office. Pretty fair to assume it’s suburban. He owns the offices west of 180th that DTN, Lindsay, and Sojern are in, I’m guessing by there? Not sure if there is room.

Have not yet heard who the two tenants replacing them downtown are. But unless something drastic changes it sounds like them going downtown is dead.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:35 am

OmahaJaysCU wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:41 am Supposedly Medical Solutions has signed an agreement with their current Landlord (Cizek Homes, who does lots of suburban office buildings) to build them a new office. Pretty fair to assume it’s suburban. He owns the offices west of 180th that DTN, Lindsay, and Sojern are in, I’m guessing by there? Not sure if there is room.

Have not yet heard who the two tenants replacing them downtown are. But unless something drastic changes it sounds like them going downtown is dead.

Have you heard anything to validate these npdodger rumors?

stormchaser · Post by **stormchaser** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:44 pm

OmahaJaysCU wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:41 am Supposedly Medical Solutions has signed an agreement with their current Landlord (Cizek Homes, who does lots of suburban office buildings) to build them a new office. Pretty fair to assume it’s suburban. He owns the offices west of 180th that DTN, Lindsay, and Sojern are in, I’m guessing by there? Not sure if there is room.

Have not yet heard who the two tenants replacing them downtown are. But unless something drastic changes it sounds like them going downtown is dead.

I'd be shocked if Medical Solutions is going anywhere besides this new office building that is planned for next to Westroads (where MINI/BMW, etc used to be). Especially since this same company already did work for Medical Solutions (with their Denver campus).

https://hollandbasham.com/projects/mixe ... velopment/

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:34 pm

Is that building even realistically going to happen? It came across as a concept years ago with nothing since.

stormchaser · Post by **stormchaser** » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:38 pm

Linkin5 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:34 pm Is that building even realistically going to happen? It came across as a concept years ago with nothing since.

Hard to say - though I believe it’s only been ~2 years (I could be mistaken). I realize that’s still a while but considering how the pandemic and consequently supply issues/skyrocketing building expenses, it’s not completely surprising to have this delayed. Maybe a scaled back version is more realistic but I’d be surprised if they completely scrap the project and move elsewhere…

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:47 pm

stormchaser wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:38 pm
Linkin5 wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:34 pm Is that building even realistically going to happen? It came across as a concept years ago with nothing since.
Hard to say - though I believe it’s only been ~2 years (I could be mistaken). I realize that’s still a while but considering how the pandemic and consequently supply issues/skyrocketing building expenses, it’s not completely surprising to have this delayed. Maybe a scaled back version is more realistic but I’d be surprised if they completely scrap the project and move elsewhere…

It was announced in early 2020, I believe, with no reporting on it and none since. Someone here found it on the Holland Bashan site while looking at the previous Lanoha proposal for the old UP site and posted it.

ita · Post by **ita** » Fri May 19, 2023 9:56 am

Npdodger12 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:01 pm This development is still going to happen. The project is still evolving. One office tenant has pulled out, and two other office tenants will be taking their place, with additional office space required to meet their needs. An announcement probably won’t come until summer.

Any updates, friend? Heading into summer, would love to have some hypothetical rumor to look forward to.

djc311 · Post by **djc311** » Fri May 19, 2023 7:28 pm

Is this what is referred to as “fake news”?

LOLOLOL

NEDodger · Post by **NEDodger** » Fri May 19, 2023 7:31 pm

ita wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 9:56 am
Npdodger12 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:01 pm This development is still going to happen. The project is still evolving. One office tenant has pulled out, and two other office tenants will be taking their place, with additional office space required to meet their needs. An announcement probably won’t come until summer.
Any updates, friend? Heading into summer, would love to have some hypothetical rumor to look forward to.

Tons of new news on it! You just have to buy some beautiful Florida swampland to hear it!

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Mon May 22, 2023 8:26 am

NEDodger wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 7:31 pm
ita wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 9:56 am
Npdodger12 wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:01 pm This development is still going to happen. The project is still evolving. One office tenant has pulled out, and two other office tenants will be taking their place, with additional office space required to meet their needs. An announcement probably won’t come until summer.
Any updates, friend? Heading into summer, would love to have some hypothetical rumor to look forward to.
Tons of new news on it! You just have to buy some beautiful Florida swampland to hear it!

very cryptic

Npdodger12 · Post by **Npdodger12** » Mon May 22, 2023 6:25 pm

This project is now in the “wait and see” mode. It may happen. It may not. Developers, including the one working on this project, are getting very nervous these days. Those doing financing are also on edge. Politics is playing a huge part in the decision to pause for a while and to wait and see before making a decision wether to build or not to build.

Npdodger12 · Post by **Npdodger12** » Mon May 22, 2023 6:38 pm

I failed to mention that all tenants have agreed that it is best to pause this project. Nobody has backed out.

Bob from Omaha · Post by **Bob from Omaha** » Mon May 22, 2023 8:19 pm

I'm curious why its in a wait & see. Lincoln projects are ongoing. Does Lincoln have a different PDEW than Omaha with regard to apartments?

GenX · Post by **GenX** » Tue May 23, 2023 12:40 am

Bob from Omaha wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 8:19 pm I'm curious why its in a wait & see. Lincoln projects are ongoing. Does Lincoln have a different PDEW than Omaha with regard to apartments?

There’s a huge difference between projects that have been proposed and projects that are underway. If the economy goes south for whatever reason, projects can and do die on the vine.

Omaha always seems to have so much forward momentum built up with future projects or whatnot and then the economy tanks and 99% get cancelled or scaled back. I really hope history doesn’t repeat itself, again.

Duggers_Dad · Post by **Duggers_Dad** » Tue May 23, 2023 9:00 am

EricHaley wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:40 am
Bob from Omaha wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 8:19 pm I'm curious why its in a wait & see. Lincoln projects are ongoing. Does Lincoln have a different PDEW than Omaha with regard to apartments?
There’s a huge difference between projects that have been proposed and projects that are underway. If the economy goes south for whatever reason, projects can and do die on the vine.

Omaha always seems to have so much forward momentum built up with future projects or whatnot and then the economy tanks and 99% get cancelled or scaled back. I really hope history doesn’t repeat itself, again.

I can assure you that this phenomenon is not unique to Omaha.

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue May 23, 2023 2:52 pm

Npdodger12 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 6:38 pm I failed to mention that all tenants have agreed that it is best to pause this project. Nobody has backed out.

Thanks for the update. I assume "politics" is the hubbub over the debt ceiling/borrower limit. That's understandable, still looking forward to an update on the Mercantile project, regardless what it is.

Also, what about your 25 story residential tower project? Same deal, waiting to see how we land in a month or two?

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Tue May 23, 2023 10:33 pm

Wall Street tower vibes, but with no rending or article

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed May 24, 2023 5:56 pm

This thread amusement continues

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Keep in mind folks, this is the “Rumors Forum”. 80% of the stuff posted here does not become reality…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

Duggers_Dad · Post by **Duggers_Dad** » Wed May 24, 2023 6:16 pm

If I was an Omaha I think I’d be comfortable stretching out and waiting for streetcar effect.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed May 24, 2023 6:18 pm

Duggers_Dad wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 6:16 pm If I was an Omaha I think I’d be comfortable stretching out and waiting for streetcar effect.

Yep…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

ita · Post by **ita** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:29 am

ita wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 2:52 pm
Npdodger12 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 6:38 pm I failed to mention that all tenants have agreed that it is best to pause this project. Nobody has backed out.
Thanks for the update. I assume "politics" is the hubbub over the debt ceiling/borrower limit. That's understandable, still looking forward to an update on the Mercantile project, regardless what it is.

Also, what about your 25 story residential tower project? Same deal, waiting to see how we land in a month or two?

Npdodger12, I know you're watching. We got over the debt ceiling debacle, inflation seem to be steadying, and the Fed didn't raise rates for the first time in a while. Any updates on this or your 25 story project? I know it's only been a month, but lots has happened since then.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:27 am

The dude was messing with everyone stop asking him questions.

djc311 · Post by **djc311** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:48 am

Linkin5 wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:27 am The dude was messing with everyone stop asking him questions.

Total joke - I wonder if habitual liars get joy from being

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:58 pm

For the record, I was not joking, but unfortunately I haven’t heard squat on my end. Mine was a separate thread tho

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:04 pm

OmahaJaysCU wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:58 pm For the record, I was not joking, but unfortunately I haven’t heard squat on my end. Mine was a separate thread tho

viewtopic.php?t=23146

This thread? You never really got into specifics beyond rumblings haha

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 1:11 pm

OmahaJaysCU wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:58 pm For the record, I was not joking, but unfortunately I haven’t heard squat on my end. Mine was a separate thread tho

Definitely believe what you post as you’ve been spot on in the past.

Npdodger12 · Post by **Npdodger12** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:07 pm

A decision to move forward most likely won’t come until late 2024. I don’t think a lot of you realize how messed up things are. The media keeps mentioning that inflation is coming down. It’s not. The rate of inflation is coming down, but costs are still rising. It’s been estimated that the cost to build this project has gone up 35 percent already. Unless there are some drastic changes coming soon, this project will most likely die or be scaled back a lot.

CBJason · Post by **CBJason** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 2:47 pm

ita wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:29 am
Npdodger12, I know you're watching. We got over the debt ceiling debacle, inflation seem to be steadying, and the Fed didn't raise rates for the first time in a while. Any updates on this or your 25 story project? I know it's only been a month, but lots has happened since then.

Also, while the FED didn't raise rate this time they will again. Interest rates won't get better anytime soon.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 8:10 pm

As I’ve stated previously, this thread never fails to amuse…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:11 am

it's easy when you never have to give specifics. Saying things like 'it's been pushed back' or 'you just don't understand how this all works, man' is just a matter of convenience to stir the pot when there was really nothing worthy of saying to begin with. It is better to just wait until you have more concrete information, or if the process is further along. Otherwise, don't say anything and your statements won't get ridiculed. I liken it to someone on facebook saying "well that sucked, I'm looking out for me first from now on!" just to elicit concern from others because you want attention.

djc311 · Post by **djc311** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:59 am

thenewguy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:11 am it's easy when you never have to give specifics. Saying things like 'it's been pushed back' or 'you just don't understand how this all works, man' is just a matter of convenience to stir the pot when there was really nothing worthy of saying to begin with. It is better to just wait until you have more concrete information, or if the process is further along. Otherwise, don't say anything and your statements won't get ridiculed. I liken it to someone on facebook saying "well that sucked, I'm looking out for me first from now on!" just to elicit concern from others because you want attention.

I have new sources that have CONFIRMED this may (or may not) happen... within the next 1-25 years.... by some company or companies and it could be YUUUUUGE.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:08 am

Friends-

It helps to remember this is the “Rumors” forum. 90% of the stuff presented never comes to fruition..

I don’t take posts here too seriously. They’re fun to read and if you “like” the rumor, you hope it becomes reality at some point..

Otherwise, grain of salt

…

Ciao..LiO…Peace

ita · Post by **ita** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:44 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:08 am Friends-

It helps to remember this is the “Rumors” forum. 90% of the stuff presented never comes to fruition..

I don’t take posts here too seriously. They’re fun to read and if you “like” the rumor, you hope it becomes reality at some point..

Otherwise, grain of salt …

Ciao..LiO…Peace

This is why I keep calling out Npdodger. It's fun to believe in something. I am not gullible, at least, I try not to be, but if they're a troll, they are the most polite and consistent troll I've come across.

If anything, Hines promised more apartments, office (T3), and a boutique hotel for future phases. Details are pending, so I am hoping for the best.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 1:23 pm

ita wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:44 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:08 am Friends-

It helps to remember this is the “Rumors” forum. 90% of the stuff presented never comes to fruition..

I don’t take posts here too seriously. They’re fun to read and if you “like” the rumor, you hope it becomes reality at some point..

Otherwise, grain of salt …

Ciao..LiO…Peace
This is why I keep calling out Npdodger. It's fun to believe in something. I am not gullible, at least, I try not to be, but if they're a troll, they are the most polite and consistent troll I've come across.

If anything, Hines promised more apartments, office (T3), and a boutique hotel for future phases. Details are pending, so I am hoping for the best.

I definitely think there is going to be some sort of condo/apartment tower in this area, I just don’t think npdodger has any inside knowledge.