Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:55 am

since there are no floors below grade, it would seem like there could be relatively rapid changes in height in the coming months.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:46 am

thenewguy wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:55 am since there are no floors below grade, it would seem like there could be relatively rapid changes in height in the coming months.

That is rather odd, I hadn't even realized that.

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:34 am

Louie wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:46 am
thenewguy wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:55 am since there are no floors below grade, it would seem like there could be relatively rapid changes in height in the coming months.
That is rather odd, I hadn't even realized that.

Sarcasm?

After I reread it, it sounds like a dumb-a ss observation on my end. But really, I would suspect there's not a TON to do after concrete has been poured, save for some sewer work, then everything will just be vertical construction that you can actually see happening, where as many others have a lot of below grade work to do and a certain percentage of the building isn't visible and height isn't noticed until many months later

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:54 am

Good image from Reddit for seeing the scale next to CPP.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:15 am

thenewguy wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:34 am
Louie wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:46 am
thenewguy wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:55 am since there are no floors below grade, it would seem like there could be relatively rapid changes in height in the coming months.
That is rather odd, I hadn't even realized that.
Sarcasm?

After I reread it, it sounds like a dumb-a ss observation on my end. But really, I would suspect there's not a TON to do after concrete has been poured, save for some sewer work, then everything will just be vertical construction that you can actually see happening, where as many others have a lot of below grade work to do and a certain percentage of the building isn't visible and height isn't noticed until many months later

I was actually commenting on the fact that there isn't any below grade work. Typically, you'll have at least some form of basement (garage, utilities, etc) on these buildings.

Lilj4425 · Post by **Lilj4425** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:37 am

EricHaley wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:28 pm
BRoss wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:59 pm How many tower cranes will we get here? Seems like two could be a possibility.
I previously wagered two tower cranes, and I stand by that.

The project will have two tower cranes. Both concrete bases have been poured for them. The Reddit pic posted above shows them pretty well. One on the right side of the site with the blue crane piece already installed and one on the left side of the site waiting on its crane piece.

Renovator2559 · Post by **Renovator2559** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:39 am

Garrett wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:54 am

Good image from Reddit for seeing the scale next to CPP.

Nice, that's the tower crane base on the west side alright. I wonder what type of tower cranes will compose the duo

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:59 am

that crane is one of the tallest structures in the city

Renovator2559 · Post by **Renovator2559** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:49 pm

thenewguy wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:59 am that crane is one of the tallest structures in the city

Not quite this crane, as there are many more buildings taller than this crane, as for the tower crane; yes it will be among the tallest.
A tower crane will always end up being the tallest structure in any city

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 2:04 pm

To be fair, I understand that the tower crane will be the tallest... But this crane, specifically, is taller than central park plaza, and appears to even be much taller than the land mark center as well. That means there are at most 8 buildings in Omaha that are currently taller, and there are thousands of buildings in Omaha. Even if you count radio towers, it's still in the top 15.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:40 pm

Garrett wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:54 am

Good image from Reddit for seeing the scale next to CPP.

That is a great shot

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Post by **Brad** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:00 pm

Is that a tower crane pad on the east too?

East

TC-EAST.jpg

Looks similar to this one on the West

TC-WEST.jpg

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:38 pm

Brad wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:00 pm Is that a tower crane pad on the east too?

East
TC-EAST.jpg

Looks similar to this one on the West
TC-WEST.jpg

Tower cranes are interesting and all, but I’m more excited by the progress they’ve made setting all of those permanent pile foundations down to bedrock for the actual building!

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:42 pm

Does anyone know if it's unusual to not have a basement in a building of this height. I wonder if the 15 story attached parking garage has something to do with not needing a basement. Omaha currently does not even have a parking garage approaching 15 floors, 8 or 10 floors would probably be our tallest garage currently. Thanks for the great pics !.

Duggers_Dad · Post by **Duggers_Dad** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:46 pm

15 stories sounds like an amusement ride.

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:07 pm

Cermak wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:42 pm Does anyone know if it's unusual to not have a basement in a building of this height. I wonder if the 15 story attached parking garage has something to do with not needing a basement. Omaha currently does not even have a parking garage approaching 15 floors, 8 or 10 floors would probably be our tallest garage currently. Thanks for the great pics !.

it’s not unusual for a high rise not to have a basement. With so many substantial columns coming down from high above and with all the weight needing to be transferred to the foundation and piles, there’s really not much space left for other activities. As far as the 15-story parking garage goes, that seems pretty unusual, unless they’ll have elevators to take cars to the upper levels. I can’t imagine driving up a spiraling ramp for 15 stories.

Lilj4425 · Post by **Lilj4425** » Wed Jun 07, 2023 1:57 am

Brad wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 4:00 pm Is that a tower crane pad on the east too?

East
TC-EAST.jpg

Looks similar to this one on the West
TC-WEST.jpg

Yes it is.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Wed Jun 07, 2023 10:34 am

GetUrban wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:07 pm
Cermak wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:42 pm Does anyone know if it's unusual to not have a basement in a building of this height. I wonder if the 15 story attached parking garage has something to do with not needing a basement. Omaha currently does not even have a parking garage approaching 15 floors, 8 or 10 floors would probably be our tallest garage currently. Thanks for the great pics !.
it’s not unusual for a high rise not to have a basement. With so many substantial columns coming down from high above and with all the weight needing to be transferred to the foundation and piles, there’s really not much space left for other activities. As far as the 15-story parking garage goes, that seems pretty unusual, unless they’ll have elevators to take cars to the upper levels. I can’t imagine driving up a spiraling ramp for 15 stories.

Right, I'm curious about the 15 story parking garage myself. I'm guessing some other cities might have some but I wouldn't think they are very common. After checking google earth I did find a 12 story parking garage in downtown KC, I actually parked there once when I visited the NCAA basketball experience museum at the Sprint Center years ago.

Visionless · Post by **Visionless** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:35 am

I think we're seeing the start of the east side tower crane.

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:43 am

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:04 am

Visionless · Post by **Visionless** » Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:12 am

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:57 am

there are several renderings in the urban core strategic plan that show MoO with a tower to the north (on the other side of UP headquarters) and a tower directly to the east where all the construction trailers are currently located. what a difference that makes to the overall skyline, I hope that their vision comes to fruition...

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:55 am

so i was cruisin around on the big ole hole in the ground and they are working on these:

does anyone know (brad maybe?) if the tube represent the full depth of the pilings, or if this is in addition to what is in the ground? They look huge, but i really don't know how deep they have to go to support a nearly 700' tall building...

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:56 am

it also looks like the removed a lot of dirt in the north east corner of the lot. The other day there were dump trucks driving through that area where fill has been removed

Post by **BRoss** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:50 pm

I think those have yet to go fully in the ground, but are partially in. I've seen some prior to going in being tall enough to rise above camera.

bldgengineer2015 · Post by **bldgengineer2015** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:48 pm

thenewguy wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:55 am so i was cruisin around on the big ole hole in the ground and they are working on these:

does anyone know (brad maybe?) if the tube represent the full depth of the pilings, or if this is in addition to what is in the ground? They look huge, but i really don't know how deep they have to go to support a nearly 700' tall building...

The bedrock is around 80 to 90 feet deep in this area. The casings that are sticking up haven't been driven into the ground yet.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:05 pm

Thanks for the intel folks

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GenX · Post by **GenX** » Thu Jun 15, 2023 6:11 pm

bldgengineer2015 wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 4:48 pm
thenewguy wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 10:55 am so i was cruisin around on the big ole hole in the ground and they are working on these:

does anyone know (brad maybe?) if the tube represent the full depth of the pilings, or if this is in addition to what is in the ground? They look huge, but i really don't know how deep they have to go to support a nearly 700' tall building...

The bedrock is around 80 to 90 feet deep in this area. The casings that are sticking up haven't been driven into the ground yet.

Name checks out

Renovator2559 · Post by **Renovator2559** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:03 am

Passed by earlier and the two piles are no longer above the ground. Looks like that's all of them, as I no longer see any piles laying horizontally.

Mjs5050ss · Post by **Mjs5050ss** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:40 am

Renovator2559 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:03 am Passed by earlier and the two piles are no longer above the ground. Looks like that's all of them, as I no longer see any piles laying horizontally.

Also looks like they are loading up some of the drilling equipment.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:19 am

I drove by this week as well for the first time in about 3 weeks. Even if you don't know much about building construction, anyone can tell something big is going on here more than a 3 or 4 story building is being constructed. Unless you're in Chicago, NYC or heck even Austin you don't see this type of construction very often. Exciting to watch it.

Renovator2559 · Post by **Renovator2559** » Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:14 am

Cermak wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:19 am I drove by this week as well for the first time in about 3 weeks. Even if you don't know much about building construction, anyone can tell something big is going on here more than a 3 or 4 story building is being constructed. Unless you're in Chicago, NYC or heck even Austin you don't see this type of construction very often. Exciting to watch it.

Well there's currently a construction crane by UNMC, as that is midrise.

But yes it's exciting to see this type of construction activity, we are a healthy growth city.

GenX · Post by **GenX** » Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:55 pm

Renovator2559 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:14 am
Cermak wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:19 am I drove by this week as well for the first time in about 3 weeks. Even if you don't know much about building construction, anyone can tell something big is going on here more than a 3 or 4 story building is being constructed. Unless you're in Chicago, NYC or heck even Austin you don't see this type of construction very often. Exciting to watch it.
Well there's currently a construction crane by UNMC, as that is midrise.

But yes it's exciting to see this type of construction activity, we are a healthy growth city.

Healthy may be a bit of a stretch, but we’re definitely growing

We Don’t Coast · Post by **We Don’t Coast** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:11 am

EricHaley wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:55 pm
Renovator2559 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:14 am
Cermak wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:19 am I by that comment?drove by this week as well for the first time in about 3 weeks. Even if you don't know much about building construction, anyone can tell something big is going on here more than a 3 or 4 story building is being constructed. Unless you're in Chicago, NYC or heck even Austin you don't see this type of construction very often. Exciting to watch it.
Well there's currently a construction crane by UNMC, as that is midrise.

But yes it's exciting to see this type of construction activity, we are a healthy growth city.
Healthy may be a bit of a stretch, but we’re definitely growing

LOL, Not to take this construction of our new Mutual skyscraper off topic, but what do you mean by that comment? A Stretch? Omaha IS a healthy and growing metropolitan area. I’d like to understand (in your opinion) why that’s “a bit of a stretch”.

GenX · Post by **GenX** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:33 pm

We Don’t Coast wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:11 am
EricHaley wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 9:55 pm
Renovator2559 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 10:14 am
Cermak wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:19 am I by that comment?drove by this week as well for the first time in about 3 weeks. Even if you don't know much about building construction, anyone can tell something big is going on here more than a 3 or 4 story building is being constructed. Unless you're in Chicago, NYC or heck even Austin you don't see this type of construction very often. Exciting to watch it.
Well there's currently a construction crane by UNMC, as that is midrise.

But yes it's exciting to see this type of construction activity, we are a healthy growth city.
Healthy may be a bit of a stretch, but we’re definitely growing
LOL, Not to take this construction of our new Mutual skyscraper off topic, but what do you mean by that comment? A Stretch? Omaha IS a healthy and growing metropolitan area. I’d like to understand (in your opinion) why that’s “a bit of a stretch”.

It was just a sarcastic response.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:17 am

“The Big ‘Ol Hole in the Ground” Twitter page has some nice hourly updates on the tower construction process..

Glad to see he’s been back at it again

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Post by **BRoss** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:41 pm

Also an update on Reddit:

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:48 pm

BRoss wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:41 pm Also an update on Reddit:

Very nice!…

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Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:48 am

Still surprised this doesn't have some sort of a basement. Even the 9 story apartment building currently going up In Blackstone (37 West Farnam) has a fairly deep basement. Just looks strange without one. I wonder if the 15 story parking garage has something to do with it not needing a basement.