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GetUrban wrote: Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:01 am
Brad wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:39 pm Thought this scene looked cool this morning...

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Wow! I love the colors and contrast between sunlit surfaces and shadows. The detailing of the building elements looks awsome.
It was one of those unplanned photos where I walked down the street and instantly knew I needed to take a photo. The building really did turn out nice!
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that is such a good shot, it almost looks like a rendering. The colors/contrasts are superb!
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Double thank you to Brad for the photo and Development Forum thread reminder.
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A new shop opened in tbe corner of Farnam and 10th in the corner of the Mercantile. will take a pic next time I’m by.
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jjjjhskr wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:57 pm A new shop opened in tbe corner of Farnam and 10th in the corner of the Mercantile. will take a pic next time I’m by.
I am pretty sure the shop space on the Farnam side are all live/work space so will be interesting to see what type of shooed go in those suites.
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ita wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:27 am Updated render of T3 from MBJ.

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So with Brickline starting to wrap up, does this transition fairly directly to construction of this?
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Couple Aerial Photo Updates from the other morning.

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That is a truly massive building
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Thanks Brad!


In the second photo the remaining Con Agra building looks rightfully out of place.
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Louie wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:47 pm That is a truly massive building
This does look like the largest apartment building in the city, maybe it's not, but it sure looks like it. Glad it's finally getting done. Should add a lot of foot traffic to the immediate area. Definitely an improvement over what was there.
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Cermak wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:00 pm
Louie wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:47 pm That is a truly massive building
This does look like the largest apartment building in the city, maybe it's not, but it sure looks like it.
What about the Atlas Apartments?
Or even the highline?
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is the garage open to the public?
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thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:45 am is the garage open to the public?
Yes public can park there. Similar setup to the landmark; some are reserved, some are public spaces.
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Renovator2559 wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:01 am
Cermak wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:00 pm
Louie wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:47 pm That is a truly massive building
This does look like the largest apartment building in the city, maybe it's not, but it sure looks like it.
What about the Atlas Apartments?
Or even the highline?
The Highline is 259k sq ft, the Mercantile is 370k sq ft, and i couldnt find an accurate measure for the old st joe's. But the sq footage of the footprint of the building is about 140k sq ft. So it's at the very least similar in size to the Mercantile if not a bit bigger.
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Louie wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:35 am
Renovator2559 wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:01 am
Cermak wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:00 pm
Louie wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:47 pm That is a truly massive building
This does look like the largest apartment building in the city, maybe it's not, but it sure looks like it.
What about the Atlas Apartments?
Or even the highline?
The Highline is 259k sq ft, the Mercantile is 370k sq ft, and i couldnt find an accurate measure for the old st joe's. But the sq footage of the footprint of the building is about 140k sq ft. So it's at the very least similar in size to the Mercantile if not a bit bigger.
Thanks, the highline is smaller, even though taller as you say.

As for the Atlas, the property is not only the square but also the green spaces to the south and west

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Well, I mean, why would I count the green space when comparing building size?
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That's extra but even then the Atlas building has more floors
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Which is why I said it is probably the same or bigger than the Mercantile. You just have to argue with everyone don't you?
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FWIW...Atlas is 382,044 SF and yet still 5 stories. Yay, who cares!?


Now back to The Mercantile...it's a nice first for the redevelopment of C.A. I hope the next phases of development continue to segue and blend as nicely with DT/O.M.
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ita wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:53 am
thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:45 am is the garage open to the public?
Yes public can park there. Similar setup to the landmark; some are reserved, some are public spaces.
awesome!

We went down to the new parks over the weekend and it was really tough to find a spot to park. The garage in there will save a ton of time.
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nebport5 wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:57 pm FWIW...Atlas is 382,044 SF and yet still 5 floors. Yay, who cares!?
Since you decided to remention the Atlas.

Actually the Atlas is 6 floors plus a smaller 7 floor. Plus the 8th floor which is the community green space and lounge. Floor 1-8 do not hold any parking.

Also, the Atlas has two Parking floors that span the entire building, below floor 1 and the P1 is partially a community lounge, P2 spans entire building.

Not only that, the detached north parking garage is also part of the Atlas.

I've been to the Atlas many times, so I'm familiar with the layout.

The brickline has parking that is on every floor

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Of course the Brickline is one of many housing projects in the ConAgra property, so it's not one single monolith project like the Atlas was, can't wait to see what other developments are in store for ConAgra.

Also the Brickline is filled with 28% of tenants from out of state, so that's a good indication on how appealing the area is.
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thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:16 pm
ita wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:53 am
thenewguy wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:45 am is the garage open to the public?
Yes public can park there. Similar setup to the landmark; some are reserved, some are public spaces.
awesome!

We went down to the new parks over the weekend and it was really tough to find a spot to park. The garage in there will save a ton of time.
I don't know if you tried to use it yet, but I just used it for the first time this past weekend. It was a little confusing because you don't take a ticket. It's more like a street parking space where you pay at a centralized parking meter down at the entrance or by app. The zone is 507.

Also, I was concerned about pedestrian permeability of the Brickline. You can access both Harney and Farnam through the first floor garage. It's not really designed the best for pedestrians, but you can walk through the garage entrance, which is located where 9th street would be. I didn't walk to it, but the Harney side of the pedestrian walkthrough, actually looks like a nice space and incorporates well into the Harney Street plaza that was designed into the development.
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ita wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:41 am I don't know if you tried to use it yet, but I just used it for the first time this past weekend. It was a little confusing because you don't take a ticket. It's more like a street parking space where you pay at a centralized parking meter down at the entrance or by app. The zone is 507.

Also, I was concerned about the pedestrian permeability of the Brickline. You can access both Harney and Farnam through the first-floor garage. It's not really designed the best for pedestrians, but you can walk through the garage entrance, which is located where 9th street would be. I didn't walk to it, but the Harney side of the pedestrian walkthrough, actually looks like a nice space and incorporates well into the Harney Street plaza that was designed into the development.
The Omaha Chambers analyzed data over decades and they mentioned that the more parking spots Omaha created, the more the economic activity reduced in the urban core. More parking spots do not translate into a more vibrant city.

Sure there are some inconveniences in the short term as we transition to include the streetcar, but once we have the streetcar; we won't need that many parking spots.

We are long overdue for the streetcar, we need it ASAP; as I have noticed a backup of traffic on i480W coming from CB to Dodge Street, during some major events.
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Renovator2559 wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 2:27 pm
ita wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:41 am I don't know if you tried to use it yet, but I just used it for the first time this past weekend. It was a little confusing because you don't take a ticket. It's more like a street parking space where you pay at a centralized parking meter down at the entrance or by app. The zone is 507.

Also, I was concerned about the pedestrian permeability of the Brickline. You can access both Harney and Farnam through the first-floor garage. It's not really designed the best for pedestrians, but you can walk through the garage entrance, which is located where 9th street would be. I didn't walk to it, but the Harney side of the pedestrian walkthrough, actually looks like a nice space and incorporates well into the Harney Street plaza that was designed into the development.
The Omaha Chambers analyzed data over decades and they mentioned that the more parking spots Omaha created, the more the economic activity reduced in the urban core. More parking spots do not translate into a more vibrant city.

Sure there are some inconveniences in the short term as we transition to include the streetcar, but once we have the streetcar; we won't need that many parking spots.

We are long overdue for the streetcar, we need it ASAP; as I have noticed a backup of traffic on i480W coming from CB to Dodge Street, during some major events.
These are points that we have all pointed out in the past, especially ita. He posted a video from Modern Streetcar Advocates that has all the data you're referring to years ago.
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Yes of course and I am glad many know, though sometimes its good to remind when questions arise as to why we are not following the Tulsa way (a city that I travel often for work) in creating more parking.
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I had just assumed "Memoir" on the corner would open first because it's been under construction for an interminable amount of time, but no....
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"Tupelo Honey" beat them to it. I tried it tonight, food is delicious. Beautiful and elegant space, too.
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I travelled the state the last couple years looking for that "great small town restaurant" but in reality there isn't a whole lot of pickings.

I was in Columbus, went to their fanciest restaurant that all the folks go to on a special occasion, and the food there still does not hold a candle to what Omaha has to offer. We are spoiled with culinary richness here, and more keeps on coming.
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stadsborgare wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:19 pm I had just assumed "Memoir" on the corner would open first because it's been under construction for an interminable amount of time, but no....
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"Tupelo Honey" beat them to it. I tried it tonight, food is delicious. Beautiful and elegant space, too.
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I travelled the state the last couple years looking for that "great small town restaurant" but in reality there isn't a whole lot of pickings.

I was in Columbus, went to their fanciest restaurant that all the folks go to on a special occasion, and the food there still does not hold a candle to what Omaha has to offer. We are spoiled with culinary richness here, and more keeps on coming.
The real question is, do they serve honey?
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looks like they have some honey on some stuff :)

menu looks good

https://tupelohoneycafe.com/omaha/menu/
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I've been to Tupelo Honey a couple of times already, and it is good food.

The south side of the Mercantile is going to be a really cool area once the rest of the restaurants fill in. It will be even better once the land south of there gets developed. Has there been any news recently about what is going in, or what it will look like?
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halgy wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:32 pm I've been to Tupelo Honey a couple of times already, and it is good food.

The south side of the Mercantile is going to be a really cool area once the rest of the restaurants fill in. It will be even better once the land south of there gets developed. Has there been any news recently about what is going in, or what it will look like?
Yes, this has been posted in a few different threads:
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Brad wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:43 pm
halgy wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:32 pm I've been to Tupelo Honey a couple of times already, and it is good food.

The south side of the Mercantile is going to be a really cool area once the rest of the restaurants fill in. It will be even better once the land south of there gets developed. Has there been any news recently about what is going in, or what it will look like?
Yes, this has been posted in a few different threads:
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I really hope the pavilion comes to fruition, would be a pretty cool focal point between the office/retail space and the park.
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Linkin5 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:13 pm
Brad wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:43 pm
halgy wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:32 pm I've been to Tupelo Honey a couple of times already, and it is good food.

The south side of the Mercantile is going to be a really cool area once the rest of the restaurants fill in. It will be even better once the land south of there gets developed. Has there been any news recently about what is going in, or what it will look like?
Yes, this has been posted in a few different threads:
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I really hope the pavilion comes to fruition, would be a pretty cool focal point between the office/retail space and the park.
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Agreed. If all 6 or so phases really pan out, it's going to be beautiful.
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The T3 rendering did have a second structure roughly where this would be. Not sure about the proposed use and not as cool as the cantilevered concept, but looks like something there is still planned.

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Thanks Jacob. Definitely not as unique as what was originally proposed and it looks like they added a parking lot.
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Linkin5 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:13 pm
Brad wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:43 pm
halgy wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:32 pm I've been to Tupelo Honey a couple of times already, and it is good food.

The south side of the Mercantile is going to be a really cool area once the rest of the restaurants fill in. It will be even better once the land south of there gets developed. Has there been any news recently about what is going in, or what it will look like?
Yes, this has been posted in a few different threads:
CONAGRA-001.jpg
I really hope the pavilion comes to fruition, would be a pretty cool focal point between the office/retail space and the park.
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they really did take some liberties with the height of landmark center in that rendering, didn't they?
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Linkin5 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:54 pm Thanks Jacob. Definitely not as unique as what was originally proposed and it looks like they added a parking lot.
The last one is the T3 mass timber / hybrid mass timber building. So its slightly more unique than the rendering would suggest. Although Kiewit beat them to having the first one in Omaha.
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Athomsfere wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:19 am
Linkin5 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:54 pm Thanks Jacob. Definitely not as unique as what was originally proposed and it looks like they added a parking lot.
The last one is the T3 mass timber / hybrid mass timber building. So its slightly more unique than the rendering would suggest. Although Kiewit beat them to having the first one in Omaha.
We were referencing the smaller structure to the left end of that T3 rendering. It’s in about the same place as that building hanging over the lake would be in the original conceptual drawings.
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I really hope something close to the original rendering comes to life versus what appears in the T3 rendering. A café overlooking the lake with what appears to be kayak rentals(?) below would add so much more activity.
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iamjacobm wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:36 am
Athomsfere wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:19 am
Linkin5 wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:54 pm Thanks Jacob. Definitely not as unique as what was originally proposed and it looks like they added a parking lot.
The last one is the T3 mass timber / hybrid mass timber building. So its slightly more unique than the rendering would suggest. Although Kiewit beat them to having the first one in Omaha.
We were referencing the smaller structure to the left end of that T3 rendering. It’s in about the same place as that building hanging over the lake would be in the original conceptual drawings.
Ah. Lost the context entirely then! Thanks.
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Memoir set to open Febuary 5th.