Vision Zero

[ita]

I think the most practical thing the City's Vision Zero plan can do is set speed limits that are safer for pedestrians, particularly in the urban core. While reducing speed isn't the only tool, it would be nice to see reductions of 5-10 mph throughout the core. Cars are bigger, heavier and accelerate quicker than ever. Electric vehicles contribute to that issue as much as or moreso than fossil fuel ones. Even the new "compact" Chevy Bolt will tip the scales at over 3600 lbs. A medium sized SUV like the Audi e-Tron is a ridiculous 5500+ lbs monster. And that thing goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. That's hypercar level performance in a rolling house. Anyway, I am not against development and proliferation of electric vehicles, but the more we have more drivers wielding 2 ton speeding bullets, pedestrians are at an even greater disadvantage than ever before.

[TitosBuritoBarn]

I think the most practical thing the City's Vision Zero plan can do is set speed limits that are safer for pedestrians, particularly in the urban core. While reducing speed isn't the only tool, it would be nice to see reductions of 5-10 mph throughout the core. Cars are bigger, heavier and accelerate quicker than ever. Electric vehicles contribute to that issue as much as or moreso than fossil fuel ones. Even the new "compact" Chevy Bolt will tip the scales at over 3600 lbs. A medium sized SUV like the Audi e-Tron is a ridiculous 5500+ lbs monster. And that thing goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. That's hypercar level performance in a rolling house. Anyway, I am not against development and proliferation of electric vehicles, but the more we have more drivers wielding 2 ton speeding bullets, pedestrians are at an even greater disadvantage than ever before.

Ideally lowering speed limits would lower vehicle speeds and create safer spaces for pedestrians but the reality is that people will drive as fast as they are comfortable. So they could lower speed limits but the prevailing speed will remain about where it is now. The speed desired needs to be reflected in how a road is designed. Other traffic calming measures are more effective. Horizontal traffic calming features like narrower lanes, on-street parking, street trees, curb extensions give the driver a narrower field of vision while vertical traffic calming features, like speed humps and raised intersections, force a driver to slow down so as to not cause damage to their vehicle and jostle themselves uncomfortably.

[ita]

I think the most practical thing the City's Vision Zero plan can do is set speed limits that are safer for pedestrians, particularly in the urban core. While reducing speed isn't the only tool, it would be nice to see reductions of 5-10 mph throughout the core. Cars are bigger, heavier and accelerate quicker than ever. Electric vehicles contribute to that issue as much as or moreso than fossil fuel ones. Even the new "compact" Chevy Bolt will tip the scales at over 3600 lbs. A medium sized SUV like the Audi e-Tron is a ridiculous 5500+ lbs monster. And that thing goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. That's hypercar level performance in a rolling house. Anyway, I am not against development and proliferation of electric vehicles, but the more we have more drivers wielding 2 ton speeding bullets, pedestrians are at an even greater disadvantage than ever before.

Ideally lowering speed limits would lower vehicle speeds and create safer spaces for pedestrians but the reality is that people will drive as fast as they are comfortable. So they could lower speed limits but the prevailing speed will remain about where it is now. The speed desired needs to be reflected in how a road is designed. Other traffic calming measures are more effective. Horizontal traffic calming features like narrower lanes, on-street parking, street trees, curb extensions give the driver a narrower field of vision while vertical traffic calming features, like speed humps and raised intersections, force a driver to slow down so as to not cause damage to their vehicle and jostle themselves uncomfortably.

I agree. Thank you for expounding on the importance of infrastructure and design in helping control speed. City needs better standards.

[Athomsfere]

I think the most practical thing the City's Vision Zero plan can do is set speed limits that are safer for pedestrians, particularly in the urban core. While reducing speed isn't the only tool, it would be nice to see reductions of 5-10 mph throughout the core. Cars are bigger, heavier and accelerate quicker than ever. Electric vehicles contribute to that issue as much as or moreso than fossil fuel ones. Even the new "compact" Chevy Bolt will tip the scales at over 3600 lbs. A medium sized SUV like the Audi e-Tron is a ridiculous 5500+ lbs monster. And that thing goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. That's hypercar level performance in a rolling house. Anyway, I am not against development and proliferation of electric vehicles, but the more we have more drivers wielding 2 ton speeding bullets, pedestrians are at an even greater disadvantage than ever before.

Ideally lowering speed limits would lower vehicle speeds and create safer spaces for pedestrians but the reality is that people will drive as fast as they are comfortable. So they could lower speed limits but the prevailing speed will remain about where it is now. The speed desired needs to be reflected in how a road is designed. Other traffic calming measures are more effective. Horizontal traffic calming features like narrower lanes, on-street parking, street trees, curb extensions give the driver a narrower field of vision while vertical traffic calming features, like speed humps and raised intersections, force a driver to slow down so as to not cause damage to their vehicle and jostle themselves uncomfortably.

This exactly from my POV. I don't really care if we reduce the speed limits, as it won't really change anyone's behavior.

Make the roads more difficult to traverse "at speed", add continuous sidewalks, lane diets and lane removals.

Basically, do to cars what we have been doing to everything else for the last 70 years.

[Trips1]

I think the most practical thing the City's Vision Zero plan can do is set speed limits that are safer for pedestrians, particularly in the urban core. While reducing speed isn't the only tool, it would be nice to see reductions of 5-10 mph throughout the core. Cars are bigger, heavier and accelerate quicker than ever. Electric vehicles contribute to that issue as much as or moreso than fossil fuel ones. Even the new "compact" Chevy Bolt will tip the scales at over 3600 lbs. A medium sized SUV like the Audi e-Tron is a ridiculous 5500+ lbs monster. And that thing goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds. That's hypercar level performance in a rolling house. Anyway, I am not against development and proliferation of electric vehicles, but the more we have more drivers wielding 2 ton speeding bullets, pedestrians are at an even greater disadvantage than ever before.

Ideally lowering speed limits would lower vehicle speeds and create safer spaces for pedestrians but the reality is that people will drive as fast as they are comfortable. So they could lower speed limits but the prevailing speed will remain about where it is now. The speed desired needs to be reflected in how a road is designed. Other traffic calming measures are more effective. Horizontal traffic calming features like narrower lanes, on-street parking, street trees, curb extensions give the driver a narrower field of vision while vertical traffic calming features, like speed humps and raised intersections, force a driver to slow down so as to not cause damage to their vehicle and jostle themselves uncomfortably.

Lowering speed limits will only hurt as you then have cars doing 45 when you are expecting them to be doing 30. I have found that synchronizing the lights works the best. Eastbound Douglas St. is a great example of this. If you do the speed limit the lights will turn right before you get to there. If you speed you have to hit the brakes, stop and go.

Smart lights will also help. When you sit at a light for 90 seconds with no other cars around you naturally want speed away.

The Old Market is also good as the brick roads are trash, lighting is bad, Rideshare drivers blocking traffic, construction blocking lanes and people jumping out of nowhere.

[ita]

Group making progress on plan to end traffic deaths on Omaha streets

Jessica Wade
A long-awaited plan for reducing traffic deaths on Omaha streets could be coming before the City Council this summer.

That’s at least the hope of a local group tasked with drafting the city’s Vision Zero action plan. Vision Zero is an international campaign centered on the belief that all traffic deaths are preventable. City officials began looking into the effort in 2017.

“Vision Zero is based on the premise that all people have a right to move about their communities safely,” said Jeff Sobczyk, who was appointed as the city’s Vision Zero coordinator in 2021.

More than 300 people have died in traffic collisions on Omaha streets in the past decade. Last year was the deadliest of the past five years for pedestrians, with deaths rising from four in 2021 to 11 in 2022.

Part of the Vision Zero team’s effort involves looking at where those deadly crashes occur and prioritizing solutions for those areas.

https://www.omahavisionzero.com/

[Coyote]

Vision Zero Omaha - Open House Meeting
Tue at 5:00PM - 7:00PM
Barbara Weitz Community Engagement Center
6400 University Drive South




Join us to learn more about Omaha's Vision Zero recommendations at our Open House.
Can’t make it? Visit our website after the meeting to view the draft plan & provide feedback: http://OmahaVisionZero.

[Athomsfere]

I've had this on my calendar for a few days now... Super excited to see if we are planning anything actually ambitious.

[Dusty]

I've had this on my calendar for a few days now... Super excited to see if we are planning anything actually ambitious.

I doubt it. I bet it's more plans for speed bumps and roundabouts. Funny timing because I just emailed them yesterday with a list of suggestions to make our streets safer. I had no clue this meeting was being planned.

[Athomsfere]

I've had this on my calendar for a few days now... Super excited to see if we are planning anything actually ambitious.

I doubt it. I bet it's more plans for speed bumps and roundabouts. Funny timing because I just emailed them yesterday with a list of suggestions to make our streets safer. I had no clue this meeting was being planned.

I'm really hoping we go continuous sidewalks across Dodge east if say 90th, Also through Blackstone.

Lane diets, or maybe two way and lane diets in the CBD...

Roundabouts are OK, but please, please... No HAWKs.

[Coyote]

Omaha's Vision Zero Action Plan draft recommendations on display




It was an evening of community engagement and feedback as the city displayed concepts, plans and ideas within the Vision Zero Action Plan before it heads to city council.

[Coyote]

Vision Zero plan aims to lower traffic safety deaths




Vision Zero places an emphasis on traffic safety with a goal to lower deaths and keep people safe on the roads and sidewalks.

[Athomsfere]

So who all went? Besides me, at least.

[Dusty]

So who all went? Besides me, at least.

Were they blaring the Safety Dance in the room? "You can dance if you want to, leave your car behind"...
What? Not that kind of meeting. LOL!

Adding the link for the open house. They will keep this open for comments and suggestions for 2 weeks

https://www.omahavisionzero.com/pages/v ... open-house

[TransitOriented]

Why don't they try requiring written tests more often for drivers licenses? I haven't had to take a test in a few decades, but I did see a guy go the wrong way around a roundabout the other day.

[almighty_tuna]

holy cow, driver's license tests are a joke anymore.

[Dusty]

Why don't they try requiring written tests more often for drivers licenses? I haven't had to take a test in a few decades, but I did see a guy go the wrong way around a roundabout the other day.

I agree. People don't know how to navigate roundabouts. And many think cars have the right away every where they go.

I took the kids over to Metcalfe Park by North Saddle Creek. We stood at the raised crosswalk with crossing signs posted. At least 10-15 cars went zooming by until someone finally stops. Of course, the other direction comes a car going 50 mpg in a 25 zone. I was mad so I walked out in the street and put my hand out flat just to signal he was going too fast. He came to screeching halt so we could finally cross the street. Then he peeled off as soon as we crossed.

[Renovator2559]

I took the kids over to Metcalfe Park by North Saddle Creek. We stood at the raised crosswalk with crossing signs posted. At least 10-15 cars went zooming by until someone finally stops. Of course, the other direction comes a car going 50 mpg in a 25 zone. I was mad so I walked out in the street and put my hand out flat just to signal he was going too fast. He came to screeching halt so we could finally cross the street. Then he peeled off as soon as we crossed.

I swear the Saddle creek area is very stressful as a walker, biker and a driver. I sweat whenever I have to cross this overwhelming intersection, a pair of large roundabouts, each on the opposites of Dodge Street, would simplify and make crossing safer for all modes of transportation.

P.S. I saw Vision Zero informational intotiative on the ORBT shelter touch screen, so it begins...Lets new the opposite of Dallas texas, who's one of the highest road fatalities in the country, with a 46% chance to get in accident compared to other cities.

[ita]

I know we talk about urban cycling a lot under this topic, but I have had a friend involved in two separate, severe bicycle-automobile accidents in West Omaha in the last three years or so and they just reported a person was rear ended while bicycling. I added the italics because I thought it was an interesting way to report what happened.

Sheriff identifies Omaha doctor as bicyclist who died after being struck by vehicle

A47-year-old Omaha doctor has been identified as the bicyclist who died Sunday after being struck by a motor vehicle just north of Valley.

Dr. Matthew Latacha was pronounced dead at the scene near 252nd Street and Rainwood Road, according to the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. The driver of the vehicle escaped injury.

Investigators determined that Latacha and the motor vehicle were both southbound on 252nd Street. The vehicle struck the bicycle from behind and then entered the west ditch.

Deputies and members of the Valley Fire Department attempted life-saving measures on the cyclist. The crash remains under investigation.

[Athomsfere]

I know we talk about urban cycling a lot under this topic, but I have had a friend involved in two separate, severe bicycle-automobile accidents in West Omaha in the last three years or so and they just reported a person was rear ended while bicycling. I added the italics because I thought it was an interesting way to report what happened.

Sheriff identifies Omaha doctor as bicyclist who died after being struck by vehicle

A47-year-old Omaha doctor has been identified as the bicyclist who died Sunday after being struck by a motor vehicle just north of Valley.

Dr. Matthew Latacha was pronounced dead at the scene near 252nd Street and Rainwood Road, according to the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. The driver of the vehicle escaped injury.

Investigators determined that Latacha and the motor vehicle were both southbound on 252nd Street. The vehicle struck the bicycle from behind and then entered the west ditch.

Deputies and members of the Valley Fire Department attempted life-saving measures on the cyclist. The crash remains under investigation.

One gripe I have heard often in the bike communities: When some thing bad happens to a cyclist, the news always uses a passive voice.

It's always "A dozen cyclists were struck by a truck rolling coal" and never "A truck rolling coal ran over a dozen cyclists".

And I find it somewhat concerning what happened here: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3499425 ... ?entry=ttu

It looks wide open. Was the driver arrested? Why not?

Also, I have no clue if Vision Zero would have mattered here unless the surrounding counties and communities also step up their safety.

[Louie]

The driver struck the bicyclist from behind, too. Like that is 100% driver negligence, at least.

[almighty_tuna]

On Sunday I returned from several days in downtown San Diego and it was quite noteworthy how seriously both drivers and pedestrians alike took crosswalks, signaled or not. If you were approaching a crosswalk w/o a signal, just painted, lanes of traffic in both directions would readily stop and wait so you could cross right away. Crosswalks were everywhere - some had traffic lights, others were the alert style like in downtown Papillion and everyone stopped for pedestrians. There were places for delivery trucks and on-street parking that didn't block bike lanes. If you were an idiot and parked blocking a pedestrian lane you'd better expect to receive multiple tickets starting at $54 each with fees.

On the flip side, if you were an idiot pedestrian and crossed outside of a designated crossing or were just being dumb in general you could also expect to be berated via driver and/or car horn.

An interested and appreciated change of pace for sure.

[Athomsfere]

The driver struck the bicyclist from behind, too. Like that is 100% driver negligence, at least.

That's sort of my thought. Wide open spaces, and a cyclist gets rear ended.

Were they driving too fast, on their phone, both?

What exactly were the events that sent the vehicle into the ditch? Did they panic right as they hit person on a bike? Or try to pass a semi unsafely, and panic as they merged back in?

I hate to be an armchair investigator here, because I was not there. I am not an investigator for any organization. But I've heard too many stories of the person being in the right, and taking all of the blame. And this doesn't feel transparent at the least.

[TitosBuritoBarn]

On the flip side, if you were an idiot pedestrian and crossed outside of a designated crossing or were just being dumb in general you could also expect to be berated via driver and/or car horn.

An interested and appreciated change of pace for sure.

Part of that is because California has very strict jaywalking laws that are taken quite seriously.

[damonhynes]

I know we talk about urban cycling a lot under this topic, but I have had a friend involved in two separate, severe bicycle-automobile accidents in West Omaha in the last three years or so and they just reported a person was rear ended while bicycling. I added the italics because I thought it was an interesting way to report what happened.


Dr. Matthew Latacha was pronounced dead at the scene near 252nd Street and Rainwood Road, according to the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. The driver of the vehicle escaped injury.

The OWH has resorted to AI. Still a few glitches.

[Louie]

I know we talk about urban cycling a lot under this topic, but I have had a friend involved in two separate, severe bicycle-automobile accidents in West Omaha in the last three years or so and they just reported a person was rear ended while bicycling. I added the italics because I thought it was an interesting way to report what happened.


Dr. Matthew Latacha was pronounced dead at the scene near 252nd Street and Rainwood Road, according to the Douglas County Sheriff's Office. The driver of the vehicle escaped injury.

The OWH has resorted to AI. Still a few glitches.

Based on their headcount, it's certainly plausible.

[Athomsfere]

KETV had a better / updated version of this story. Driver is being investigated.

[Garrett]

Even the guy's World-Herald piece uses such a weak passive voice " Latacha, 47, a cardiologist and electrophysiologist with Methodist Physicians Clinic, died Sunday after being struck by a motor vehicle just north of Valley."

Killed. He was killed when a driver struck him with their car.

[Renovator2559]

Part of that is because California has very strict jaywalking laws that are taken quite seriously.

I sigh how much we have criminalized and put the blame on walkers by the use of "jaywalking" laws. Where in the past cars, horses and people equally shared street space. Now these criminalized jaywalking laws have put cars above people.

Still at least I am glad that we are reaching a better balance between people and cars by making streets narrower, tree-line, road dieting.

I hope that the unfortunate death causes a discussions of the local neighborhood to make any of their unsafe wide streets more safe; not with posting speed signs, as we know that they are not effective deterrents of unsafe driving; if the road in question does not go into a diet.

[almighty_tuna]

I sigh how much we have criminalized and put the blame on walkers by the use of "jaywalking" laws. Where in the past cars, horses and people equally shared street space. Now these criminalized jaywalking laws have put cars above people.

Why? Should we not criminalize cars driving on sidewalks? Maybe we should let cars cross railroad tracks wherever they want instead of putting trains above cars? I've got a Jeep with big tires and can cross tracks anywhere I want. Trains should stop for ME.

If the expectation is that cars immediately yield to pedestrians at a crosswalk, pedestrians also have a responsibility to yield to cars outside of a crosswalk.

[NEDodger]

I hope that the unfortunate death causes a discussions of the local neighborhood to make any of their unsafe wide streets more safe; not with posting speed signs, as we know that they are not effective deterrents of unsafe driving; if the road in question does not go into a diet.

What?

1. It’s 256th and Rainwood. There are no neighborhoods here. It’s farms.

2. Road diet? As Athomsfere showed above, these streets are one lane each way.

[Athomsfere]

I sigh how much we have criminalized and put the blame on walkers by the use of "jaywalking" laws. Where in the past cars, horses and people equally shared street space. Now these criminalized jaywalking laws have put cars above people.

Why? Should we not criminalize cars driving on sidewalks? Maybe we should let cars cross railroad tracks wherever they want instead of putting trains above cars? I've got a Jeep with big tires and can cross tracks anywhere I want. Trains should stop for ME.

If the expectation is that cars immediately yield to pedestrians at a crosswalk, pedestrians also have a responsibility to yield to cars outside of a crosswalk.

There is a reasonable discussion around jaywalking be a terrible modern concept, especially in a lot of cities. It's a ~100 year old concept that was used in large as way for the automobile manufacturers to push the blame of incidents where a driver killed a pedestrian unto the pedestrian for being a "hill billy that doesn't know how streets work". Despite at the time roadways were often built to be multimodal: Horses, people, carts, bikes, streetcars, one space.

I think its also reasonable to want to bring our streets back that direction. In which case the idea of walking illegally is a strange concept.

And as much as I would love that utopia of walking, biking, or riding the streetcar through the streets of Blackstone while cars whiz through those shared spaces at ~5mph... It's likely not a realistic goal.

I think people forget how terrible walking in the US can be too easily:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2597073 ... ?entry=ttu

Imagine staying at the Hilton2Home there and wanting to try the Cajun Pho shop.

By car is somehow the only easy way to get there, despite being like 1/10th of a mile as the crow flies. Walking it is a maze of exposure and getting the least priority if you decided to walk to the crosswalks. Where you have to push a beg button as in "please, oh please let me cross and not freeze to death waiting in the winter, and not have cars blast through a red again".

Or when walking and there are constantly cars on the sidewalks, in the bike lanes, and shutdown without a detour out of the blue.

I guess my point is: We have way too far to go before we can really have a reason to worry about jaywalking.

[Renovator2559]

What?

1. It’s 256th and Rainwood. There are no neighborhoods here. It’s farms.

2. Road diet? As Athomsfere showed above, these streets are one lane each way.

Its in 256th and Rainwood?, it doesn't make sense for a road diet then, it's a different situation in rural and or sparsely populated areas, so no road diet needed, as it has always been in the past. Didn't mean to give a heart attack

What I meant to say, was with the more inner densily streets, which are within city boundaries.

There is a reasonable discussion around jaywalking be a terrible modern concept, especially in a lot of cities. It's a ~100 year old concept that was used in large as way for the automobile manufacturers to push the blame of incidents where a driver killed a pedestrian unto the pedestrian for being a "hill billy that doesn't know how streets work". Despite at the time roadways were often built to be multimodal: Horses, people, carts, bikes, streetcars, one space.

I think its also reasonable to want to bring our streets back that direction. In which case the idea of walking illegally is a strange concept.

And as much as I would love that utopia of walking, biking, or riding the streetcar through the streets of Blackstone while cars whiz through those shared spaces at ~5mph... It's likely not a realistic goal.

I think people forget how terrible walking in the US can be too easily:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2597073 ... ?entry=ttu

Imagine staying at the Hilton2Home there and wanting to try the Cajun Pho shop.

By car is somehow the only easy way to get there, despite being like 1/10th of a mile as the crow flies. Walking it is a maze of exposure and getting the least priority if you decided to walk to the crosswalks. Where you have to push a beg button as in "please, oh please let me cross and not freeze to death waiting in the winter, and not have cars blast through a red again".

Or when walking and there are constantly cars on the sidewalks, in the bike lanes, and shutdown without a detour out of the blue.

I guess my point is: We have way too far to go before we can really have a reason to worry about jaywalking.

Great points, beautifully said, and I agree. People can sometimes underestimate, how criminalizing pedestrians has contributed to the demise of vibrant downtowns and even small towns for decades.

I like some of the ways that Washington D.C enhances the pedestrian experience, extra wide crosswalks, long 30 second crosswalk timings.

I also like cities like Amsterdam, they used to co-opt American urban planners during the 50s and Amsterdam was becoming another "booming" car city with traffic congestion.

Due to the Dutch not seeing the supposed benefits of car centric infrastructure. They said enough is enough and they began to cater back to the pedestrian and making cars second place. In fact, pedestrians and byciclist crosswalks, do not dip to street level, cars have to drive up the crosswalk, which also are bumps to slow down cars. Roads and highways intentionally are routed around pedestrian centers and take the long route.

Here in Omaha, we can continue to lay more pedestrian only streets. Make streets more crossable, pleasing to look at and lined with greenery and turn them into more multimodal.
I have the feeling with the coming of the streetcar, Blackstone Farnam area, will be done to be just that, more pleasing to walk through.

Many people are waking up to the reality, that catering to the car first over people, leads to dead downtowns, too much grey asphalt and decaying small towns.

[ricko]

Every city I’ve lived in has bad drivers, but on a recent visit to Omaha I witnessed more than a few red light runners. I rarely see this where I live. Maybe it’s because my metro area has cameras at almost every intersection———I guess they work—————and don’t get me started on the Dodge St. speedway, I mean, J.F.C..

[Renovator2559]

Every city I’ve lived in has bad drivers, but on a recent visit to Omaha I witnessed more than a few red light runners. I rarely see this where I live. Maybe it’s because my metro area has cameras at almost every intersection———I guess they work—————and don’t get me started on the Dodge St. speedway, I mean, J.F.C..

Council Bluffs has speed cameras, throughout Kanesville and Broadway Blv. If you fail to stop in time and your front tires touch the white stop line in any way; the camera flash strobe light flashes multiple times, as it proceeds to take a picture of the offending vehicle.

Omaha needs this technology for sure.

[halgy]

Every city I’ve lived in has bad drivers, but on a recent visit to Omaha I witnessed more than a few red light runners. I rarely see this where I live. Maybe it’s because my metro area has cameras at almost every intersection———I guess they work—————and don’t get me started on the Dodge St. speedway, I mean, J.F.C..

Council Bluffs has speed cameras, throughout Kanesville and Broadway Blv. If you fail to stop in time and your front tires touch the white stop line in any way; the camera flash strobe light flashes multiple times, as it proceeds to take a picture of the offending vehicle.

Omaha needs this technology for sure.

They had red light cameras in Sioux Falls for a while, but they had to be taken out because they didn't actually help. Drivers would either slam on the brakes the moment the light turned yellow (and get rear ended) or would stomp on the gas to catch the light (and rear end someone else). Is that not a thing with the CB cameras?

[thenewguy]

not really. We've gotten kind of used to the timing. If it is a stale green light, just slow a little so you can stop. I have no actual figures other than anecdotal evidence, but anytime I'm on broadway I don't see wrecks. I do see nebraska drivers (who aren't used to them) go through red lights often enough though

[GenX]

Every city I’ve lived in has bad drivers, but on a recent visit to Omaha I witnessed more than a few red light runners. I rarely see this where I live. Maybe it’s because my metro area has cameras at almost every intersection———I guess they work—————and don’t get me started on the Dodge St. speedway, I mean, J.F.C..

Council Bluffs has speed cameras, throughout Kanesville and Broadway Blv. If you fail to stop in time and your front tires touch the white stop line in any way; the camera flash strobe light flashes multiple times, as it proceeds to take a picture of the offending vehicle.

Omaha needs this technology for sure.

Red light and speed cameras are unconstitutional in Nebraska, so it's, thankfully, never going to happen here without a constitutional ammendment.

[buildomaha]

Every city I’ve lived in has bad drivers, but on a recent visit to Omaha I witnessed more than a few red light runners. I rarely see this where I live. Maybe it’s because my metro area has cameras at almost every intersection———I guess they work—————and don’t get me started on the Dodge St. speedway, I mean, J.F.C..

Council Bluffs has speed cameras, throughout Kanesville and Broadway Blv. If you fail to stop in time and your front tires touch the white stop line in any way; the camera flash strobe light flashes multiple times, as it proceeds to take a picture of the offending vehicle.

Omaha needs this technology for sure.

Red light and speed cameras are unconstitutional in Nebraska, so it's, thankfully, never going to happen here without a constitutional ammendment.

Why do we incentivize these deadly machines and their misuse over pedestrian life?

[nebugeater]

Every city I’ve lived in has bad drivers, but on a recent visit to Omaha I witnessed more than a few red light runners. I rarely see this where I live. Maybe it’s because my metro area has cameras at almost every intersection———I guess they work—————and don’t get me started on the Dodge St. speedway, I mean, J.F.C..

Council Bluffs has speed cameras, throughout Kanesville and Broadway Blv. If you fail to stop in time and your front tires touch the white stop line in any way; the camera flash strobe light flashes multiple times, as it proceeds to take a picture of the offending vehicle.

Omaha needs this technology for sure.

Red light and speed cameras are unconstitutional in Nebraska, so it's, thankfully, never going to happen here without a constitutional ammendment.

Why do we incentivize these deadly machines and their misuse over pedestrian life?

So none of these events ever happen because the pedestrian was not being resposnable and was not following laws and restrictions?

The cameras are far from perfect. I have had one ticket from these and it was in CB. I will go to my death believing that it was wrong but there is no reasonable way to fight it.