10th and Harney Revelopment

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iamjacobm wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:37 pm
OracleOfOmaha wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:51 pm It looks like it's still for sale from when I googled early this morning on Colliers. Maybe that info is outdated?
Could be in their due diligence period. I would guess the drilling at this point is for environmental reports, a site like this that was originally developed well over a century ago wouldn't shock me to have some issues you want to be comfortable with before closing.
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they are testing if the underground gas tanks are feasible for the new mega saver going there
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i hope they include a vape shop...

(i have to say that i'm kidding, cause i don't want that to really happen, ever.)
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thenewguy wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:27 am i hope they include a vape shop...

(i have to say that i'm kidding, cause i don't want that to really happen, ever.)
ah, come on, why not?
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guy4omaha wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:26 pm
thenewguy wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:27 am i hope they include a vape shop...

(i have to say that i'm kidding, cause i don't want that to really happen, ever.)
ah, come on, why not?
i feel like i'd jinx it into existence, haha.
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Jokes aside, if this is lot only becomes a 4+1, I will be sad, mostly because it was previously rumored for a mixed use high rise development. Please be at least 8 stories, please!
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ita wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:00 pm Jokes aside, if this is lot only becomes a 4+1, I will be sad, mostly because it was previously rumored for a mixed use high rise development. Please be at least 8 stories, please!
I’m holding my breath for double digit stories.
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ita wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:00 pm Jokes aside, if this is lot only becomes a 4+1, I will be sad, mostly because it was previously rumored for a mixed use high rise development. Please be at least 8 stories, please!
The 19 stories on page 1?
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What would y'all like to see on the ground floor?

Personally, I'd love to see a drugstore like CVS or Walgreens downtown, and this would be a pretty decent location. It isn't glamorous, but it is one of the stores that is really useful in daily life, and that I'd like to have access to within walking distance. Last time I stayed in downtown Chicago, I ended up going to the CVS down the street like twice a day. It is by no means a substitute for a grocery store (still hope that happens downtown soon), but a drugstore is more compact and is often good enough for a lot of needs.
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May put a damper on the DGX up on 16th, but if it included a pharmacy, i'm sure it'd do alright
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halgy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:30 am What would y'all like to see on the ground floor?

Personally, I'd love to see a drugstore like CVS or Walgreens downtown, and this would be a pretty decent location. It isn't glamorous, but it is one of the stores that is really useful in daily life, and that I'd like to have access to within walking distance. Last time I stayed in downtown Chicago, I ended up going to the CVS down the street like twice a day. It is by no means a substitute for a grocery store (still hope that happens downtown soon), but a drugstore is more compact and is often good enough for a lot of needs.
One of those drugstores would be nice to have downtown. The Mercantile is adding hundreds of residents to that area and Hines may add even more. It would be a great amenity for tourists as well, as you're alluding to. Maybe a brick and mortar Amazon store, but is that still a thing?

In addition to ground floor retail, I would love to see a couple floors, 2 and 3, reserved for office space. I know the office sector is struggling, but would like to see more Class A speculative office in downtown.
thenewguy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:13 am May put a damper on the DGX up on 16th, but if it included a pharmacy, i'm sure it'd do alright
DGX is positioned well with the heavy residential near or around 16th street for walkability, including the rumored 400 unit conversion of Central Park Towers. A CVS or Walgreens on 10th and Harney would be about .5 miles away from DGX, but would serve Old Market residents and pull people from the Capitol District. The streetcar changes the equation, but having more options is key to getting more people to choose to live downtown.
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Agreed. I can't see a downside to a pharmacy here.

Also, I'd expect some differentiation between the two. DGX does go very cheap, and not "value" on many items. Need trashbags and have $2? DGX. Need trash bags and want something like Glad Flexy-Hexy bags? CVS.
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I'd want nothing short of that proposal on page 1. But I agree, a Walgreens would be great down there. It would pretty much be yet another convenience store, but add meds, toiletries, and some food, there might be enough of a market.
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ita wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:39 am
halgy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:30 am What would y'all like to see on the ground floor?

Personally, I'd love to see a drugstore like CVS or Walgreens downtown, and this would be a pretty decent location. It isn't glamorous, but it is one of the stores that is really useful in daily life, and that I'd like to have access to within walking distance. Last time I stayed in downtown Chicago, I ended up going to the CVS down the street like twice a day. It is by no means a substitute for a grocery store (still hope that happens downtown soon), but a drugstore is more compact and is often good enough for a lot of needs.
One of those drugstores would be nice to have downtown. The Mercantile is adding hundreds of residents to that area and Hines may add even more. It would be a great amenity for tourists as well, as you're alluding to. Maybe a brick and mortar Amazon store, but is that still a thing?

In addition to ground floor retail, I would love to see a couple floors, 2 and 3, reserved for office space. I know the office sector is struggling, but would like to see more Class A speculative office in downtown.
I was thinking 1416 Dodge would be the ideal class A spot. Here office space would be fine but I'd rather see condos or apartments to keep boosting the downtown population.
ita wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:39 am
thenewguy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:13 am May put a damper on the DGX up on 16th, but if it included a pharmacy, i'm sure it'd do alright
DGX is positioned well with the heavy residential near or around 16th street for walkability, including the rumored 400 unit conversion of Central Park Towers. A CVS or Walgreens on 10th and Harney would be about .5 miles away from DGX, but would serve Old Market residents and pull people from the Capitol District. The streetcar changes the equation, but having more options is key to getting more people to choose to live downtown.
Ya mean like an f'ing grocery store!?


A pharmacy would be ok but if there were full service grocery in the vicinity would we need another pharmacy? It may not be the ideal spot for grocery but I sort of look at a Walgreens like pharmacy as another convenience store that has some items in common with full service grocery without fully committing and not keeping me from having to get in a car for produce and a diverse meat selection. I'd also rather see a local pharmacy.
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Hyvee has everything you need and IMO anything short of it leaves much to be desired. I even think that rumored Trader Joe's would be a let down. This wouldn't be a bad location for a full service grocery store by any stretch.
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nebport5 wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:11 am
ita wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:39 am
halgy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:30 am What would y'all like to see on the ground floor?

Personally, I'd love to see a drugstore like CVS or Walgreens downtown, and this would be a pretty decent location. It isn't glamorous, but it is one of the stores that is really useful in daily life, and that I'd like to have access to within walking distance. Last time I stayed in downtown Chicago, I ended up going to the CVS down the street like twice a day. It is by no means a substitute for a grocery store (still hope that happens downtown soon), but a drugstore is more compact and is often good enough for a lot of needs.
One of those drugstores would be nice to have downtown. The Mercantile is adding hundreds of residents to that area and Hines may add even more. It would be a great amenity for tourists as well, as you're alluding to. Maybe a brick and mortar Amazon store, but is that still a thing?

In addition to ground floor retail, I would love to see a couple floors, 2 and 3, reserved for office space. I know the office sector is struggling, but would like to see more Class A speculative office in downtown.
I was thinking 1416 Dodge would be the ideal class A spot. Here office space would be fine but I'd rather see condos or apartments to keep boosting the downtown population.
ita wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:39 am
thenewguy wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:13 am May put a damper on the DGX up on 16th, but if it included a pharmacy, i'm sure it'd do alright
DGX is positioned well with the heavy residential near or around 16th street for walkability, including the rumored 400 unit conversion of Central Park Towers. A CVS or Walgreens on 10th and Harney would be about .5 miles away from DGX, but would serve Old Market residents and pull people from the Capitol District. The streetcar changes the equation, but having more options is key to getting more people to choose to live downtown.
Ya mean like an f'ing grocery store!?


A pharmacy would be ok but if there were full service grocery in the vicinity would we need another pharmacy? It may not be the ideal spot for grocery but I sort of look at a Walgreens like pharmacy as another convenience store that has some items in common with full service grocery without fully committing and not keeping me from having to get in a car for produce and a diverse meat selection. I'd also rather see a local pharmacy.
Yeah, for sure I would want condos/apartments here, and several stories of that, but would like to see some office on one or two floors. I am imagining something like the Paxton.

Haha. Yes and no. I've rehashed this position several times, but summarily, downtown could really benefit from a full service grocery store and a few other retail/food options near residential districts.
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ita wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:50 am
Yeah, for sure I would want condos/apartments here, and several stories of that, but would like to see some office on one or two floors. I am imagining something like the Paxton.

Haha. Yes and no. I've rehashed this position several times, but summarily, downtown could really benefit from a full service grocery store and a few other retail/food options near residential districts.
I think an urban Target would be a great ground level option. You get a small grocery section and basic house/clothing/electronic stuff.
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it'd be cool, but don't see them doing it. But it would be better to have a retail store like that, especially if there was a full service grocer at civic square
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Busguy2010 wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:23 am Hyvee has everything you need and IMO anything short of it leaves much to be desired. I even think that rumored Trader Joe's would be a let down. This wouldn't be a bad location for a full service grocery store by any stretch.
If they could fit a HyVee (or similar) onto this lot, it would be great. But I think that this location is too small, especially after accounting for room for delivery semi trucks. I'd rather see a full-sized grocery on the Civic lot. Or, as long as I'm dreaming, on a redeveloped lot B/D by the baseball park so it can be serviced by the streetcar.

Or actually now that I compare sizes, this lot would be big enough for a Trader Joe's as well as a Walgreens. Maybe best of both worlds? (I didn't realize how comparatively small Walgreens/Trader Joe's were until now).
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A pharmacy/drug store would absolutely be a huge get, even if it’s not flashy.
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ita wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:00 pm Jokes aside, if this is lot only becomes a 4+1, I will be sad, mostly because it was previously rumored for a mixed use high rise development. Please be at least 8 stories, please!

Maybe my standards are too low but I would say even a 4+1 is better than a parking lot!
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I would think it would at least be equal to or more than the Brickline (5 stories). So pushing a 7-8 story building seems like a reasonable get. Getting a CVS or Walgreens would be a great for the area.

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Diogenes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:19 pm
ita wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:00 pm Jokes aside, if this is lot only becomes a 4+1, I will be sad, mostly because it was previously rumored for a mixed use high rise development. Please be at least 8 stories, please!

Maybe my standards are too low but I would say even a 4+1 is better than a parking lot!
We can do better for such a prime location!
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Did we never update this thread when Drury bought this lot?

Well, hopefully they will sell this and it isn't used as hotel parking going forward...
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iamjacobm wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2025 11:33 am Did we never update this thread when Drury bought this lot?

Well, hopefully they will sell this and it isn't used as hotel parking going forward...
Yeah, someone started a new thread in the Rumors section.

Hope it sells to the right person and we get a great project here and not some half |expletive| infill.