11th & Harney

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:28 pm

I truly wish I had more specifics, but the source this came from is too legitimate to not post.

I was told yesterday that whoever is buying the parking lot that’s been for sale here (north of Harney) is “doing something pretty fricken cool and tall.”

I’m hoping the other sources on here can help piece this together.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:47 pm

My favorite kind of rumor, an OmahaJaysCU rumor

Nosebot · Post by **Nosebot** » Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:55 pm

is this meant to be labeled 11th & Harney or are you actually talking about in the old market? regardless excited to hear more.

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:12 pm

Shoot I meant Harney, thanks. Edited

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:53 pm

Garrett wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:47 pm My favorite kind of rumor, an OmahaJaysCU rumor

Same. This is fantastic.

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:19 pm

OmahaJaysCU wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:28 pm I truly wish I had more specifics, but the source this came from is too legitimate to not post.

I was told yesterday that whoever is buying the parking lot that’s been for sale here (north of Harney) is “doing something pretty fricken cool and tall.”

I’m hoping the other sources on here can help piece this together.

Do you know anything about what type of building? (ie. residential, etc)

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:53 pm

Anything as good or better than the previous proposal would be great. I think it was 19 stories residential. Probably has nothing to do with this current rumor.

OmahaJaysCU · Post by **OmahaJaysCU** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:59 pm

Trust me, I’m not happy about being vague. If I know more I’d share. I’m really hoping another source on here can help fill in some pieces for all of our sake.

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:58 am

are there any height restrictions for 11th & Harney? With it being right on the edge of the old market, do they avoid the same requirements?

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:14 am

thenewguy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:58 am are there any height restrictions for 11th & Harney? With it being right on the edge of the old market, do they avoid the same requirements?

I don’t think there are really any formal height restrictions anywhere downtown

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:22 am

So, there is building on Harney St. that will be a tall 10+ story here?

nebport5 · Post by **nebport5** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:10 am

Coyote wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:22 am So, there is building on Harney St. that will be a tall 10+ story here?

Legally defined as 322 S 10th St.

Same topic as this thread https://eomahaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=23864

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:54 am

so then is this all part of the same rumor for 10th & Harney where this rendering was posted?

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:51 pm

^ That's the one I was referencing earlier. No clue if it's related at all or not, wouldn't be surprised either way. However, that plan is in the range of 10 years old so... I'd still take that here now in a heartbeat.

Athomsfere · Post by **Athomsfere** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:54 pm

thenewguy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:54 am so then is this all part of the same rumor for 10th & Harney where this rendering was posted?

That looks a lot like the proposed new tallest building in Colorado Springs.

NEDodger · Post by **NEDodger** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:56 pm

My guess is that it would be a different plan, but we would be blessed to have at least something like that on the current surface lot.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:01 pm

NEDodger wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:56 pm My guess is that it would be a different plan, but we would be blessed to have at least something like that on the current surface lot.

Yeah that plan feels like it was a hypothetical pitch. It’s been around for a few years as I recall

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:14 pm

Garrett wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:01 pm
NEDodger wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:56 pm My guess is that it would be a different plan, but we would be blessed to have at least something like that on the current surface lot.
Yeah that plan feels like it was a hypothetical pitch. It’s been around for a few years as I recall

I don't think it's part of it. I think its at least as old as 2017 or 2014, so ten-ish. To think that was pitched well before the streetcar became a thing kinda gives me a little hope whatever happens here will be at least as good as that.

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:31 pm

yeah, it's an old one. I just wanted to see if the two lots tied together and used that remdering as a reference to the other thread. Do they need to be combined?

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:41 pm

thenewguy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:31 pm yeah, it's an old one. I just wanted to see if the two lots tied together and used that remdering as a reference to the other thread. Do they need to be combined?

They’re a single lot so should be fine. Still no transaction noted on DOGIS so it’s a wait and see thing.

I wonder if this development is the missing ~$400 million Mayor Stothert said should be announced by year’s end

Doctor Fate · Post by **Doctor Fate** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:07 pm

Garrett wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:41 pm
thenewguy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:31 pm yeah, it's an old one. I just wanted to see if the two lots tied together and used that remdering as a reference to the other thread. Do they need to be combined?
They’re a single lot so should be fine. Still no transaction noted on DOGIS so it’s a wait and see thing.

I wonder if this development is the missing ~$400 million Mayor Stothert said should be announced by year’s end

I think the police/fire HQs and the redevelopment of the current HQ sites will be part of that $400 mil as well.

nebport5 · Post by **nebport5** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:19 pm

thenewguy wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:31 pm yeah, it's an old one. I just wanted to see if the two lots tied together and used that remdering as a reference to the other thread. Do they need to be combined?

Yes, the threads should be combined. It's the same land/topic as what Cowboy posted a year ago "Large investment at 10th & Harney".

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Mon May 06, 2024 2:38 pm

I wonder if this could end up being a casino and hotel now that we have gambling. Wasn't there talk years ago of a casino being considered for DT? Now that's its legal and the streetcar is coming I wouldn't be surprised to see SOMETHING Harrah's sized DT.

ita · Post by **ita** » Mon May 06, 2024 2:46 pm

DTO Luv wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:38 pm I wonder if this could end up being a casino and hotel now that we have gambling. Wasn't there talk years ago of a casino being considered for DT? Now that's its legal and the streetcar is coming I wouldn't be surprised to see SOMETHING Harrah's sized DT.

Casinos are only allowed at existing horse racetracks, so nothing is planned for downtown. There are proposals from other cities for new horse racetracks just to get casinos, like in Bellevue, but current legislation limits where casinos can be built.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Mon May 06, 2024 4:12 pm

DTO Luv wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 2:38 pm I wonder if this could end up being a casino and hotel now that we have gambling. Wasn't there talk years ago of a casino being considered for DT? Now that's its legal and the streetcar is coming I wouldn't be surprised to see SOMETHING Harrah's sized DT.

Many years ago there was a proposal to build a casino along the riverfront. But since gambling wasn't legal, I don't think it got a second look.

Hawkeye · Post by **Hawkeye** » Tue May 07, 2024 1:00 pm

(Insert obligatory "60-90 days" reference here)

You know...just to make this thread all official, and stuff and junk.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Thu May 16, 2024 9:00 pm

Interesting addition to the mock-up of downtown at the Omaha by Design meeting today.

Nosebot · Post by **Nosebot** » Fri May 17, 2024 12:12 am

Almost looks that's on the NW side of 11th & Harney hmm...

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Fri May 17, 2024 7:16 am

iamjacobm wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:00 pm Interesting addition to the mock-up of downtown at the Omaha by Design meeting today.

i hope they know more than they are letting on, and a building with that height/shape/profile goes there. as much as i love downtown, it would be fantastic to have something that's not like anything we have down there. I'd take whatever, but i think that'd look cool

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri May 17, 2024 7:33 am

It’s also interesting in the angle it’s at. I like it. Every other building in the city is aligned perfectly with the street, it would be nice to see some change to that.

Post by **Brad** » Fri May 17, 2024 8:14 am

skinzfan23 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:33 am It’s also interesting in the angle it’s at. I like it. Every other building in the city is aligned perfectly with the street, it would be nice to see some change to that.

Omaha's tribute to the Mirage in Las Vegas, which is closing... LOL

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri May 17, 2024 8:17 am

Brad wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 8:14 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:33 am It’s also interesting in the angle it’s at. I like it. Every other building in the city is aligned perfectly with the street, it would be nice to see some change to that.
Omaha's tribute to the Mirage in Las Vegas, which is closing... LOL

On second thought, I think Midtown Crossing might have been on of the first large developments that wasn't square with the street, and it looks great.

ita · Post by **ita** » Fri May 17, 2024 9:03 am

Nosebot wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 12:12 am Almost looks that's on the NW side of 11th & Harney hmm...

That's definitely on the NW corner, ie. the Landmark Center garage. That would be an awesome addition to the area. I think I posted about this a couple years ago, but One Ala Moana is a similar concept of building a residential high rise over and on an existing parking garage: Above + Beyond: condo tower built atop parking structure. I am hopeful about this rendering.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri May 17, 2024 9:06 am

But wouldn't that be where the building that used to house Michaels and now Vudu Taco is? I wouldn't want that building torn down.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri May 17, 2024 9:09 am

Also what is the tan building in the rendering? It almost looks like it covers 10th ST. This appears to be where the Burlington building is now....that is also not going anywhere.

ita · Post by **ita** » Fri May 17, 2024 9:32 am

skinzfan23 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 9:06 am But wouldn't that be where the building that used to house Michaels and now Vudu Taco is? I wouldn't want that building torn down.

I think the building is being oriented like this:

I think the historical building you're referring to, 1102 Harney, looks like it would be preserved:

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri May 17, 2024 9:38 am

I don't see this happening when the lot right across the street is available. They would have to tear out a ton of the parking garage and also part of the data center building as well. I would think it would be much cheaper to just tear up a parking lot.

ita · Post by **ita** » Fri May 17, 2024 10:11 am

skinzfan23 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 9:38 am I don't see this happening when the lot right across the street is available. They would have to tear out a ton of the parking garage and also part of the data center building as well. I would think it would be much cheaper to just tear up a parking lot.

If they do it like One Ala Moana, they wouldn't lose much aside from some parking spots on the roof and some covered to accommodate for structural additions to the garage to handle the added weight of the residential building. Maybe they would have to relocate the HVAC stuff on top of the data center or something. It already looks like the concept takes into account the extra stuff on the roof of the data center.

Regarding the empty lot next door, I don't find that a deterrent at all. Jason Fisher and co. own the Landmark Center and parking garage. They are a competent team and I could see them pursuing something like this to make the most of their investment. They have one of the few properties adjacent to one of the newest, most popular attractions in Omaha and right next door to the Old Market. Sure they might lose some parking space, but that garage is worth a lot more to them if they can build something like this on top. Another developer can take care of the lot across the street. I know this is just a rendering and I am merely speculating, but just seeing something like this out there is super exciting.

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Fri May 17, 2024 10:27 am

Brad wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 8:14 am
skinzfan23 wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:33 am It’s also interesting in the angle it’s at. I like it. Every other building in the city is aligned perfectly with the street, it would be nice to see some change to that.
Omaha's tribute to the Mirage in Las Vegas, which is closing... LOL

haha. You are spot on

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Fri May 17, 2024 10:36 am

ita wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 9:03 am
Nosebot wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 12:12 am Almost looks that's on the NW side of 11th & Harney hmm...
That's definitely on the NW corner, ie. the Landmark Center garage. That would be an awesome addition to the area. I think I posted about this a couple years ago, but One Ala Moana is a similar concept of building a residential high rise over and on an existing parking garage: Above + Beyond: condo tower built atop parking structure. I am hopeful about this rendering.

not to get off topic, but that building is intriguing to me. Reminds me a bit of coral...