Next Skyscraper

[Midwestern]

This quote is from the Holland Greenspace thread, but I'm replying to it here so as to not take the Holland Greenspace thread off-topic:

If the surface lot at 11th and Douglas is too critical to the Holland. Perhaps Lanoha and HDR can make a deal and build a 50 story residential/office tower on the old UP lot.

I really like the idea of different developers combining their forces to build a 40-50 story tower instead of two ~20 story towers. Our skyline will become basically a long east to west row of 15-20 story buildings + FNB & Woodmen if HDR, Lanoha, and Tetrad got built at their expected heights. It would be nice to have some more height variety in there.

[RNcyanide]

If you look at the Wikipedia page on the tallest buildings in our city, you start to see how many buildings are the same height, and how many only pass each other by about 5 feet. The OWH, Landmark Center, Double Tree, and The Highline are all roughly within 5-10 feet over the other, and Elmwood Tower is only 3 feet taller than UP.

[Louie]

If you look at the Wikipedia page on the tallest buildings in our city, you start to see how many buildings are the same height, and how many only pass each other by about 5 feet. The OWH, Landmark Center, Double Tree, and The Highline are all roughly within 5-10 feet over the other, and Elmwood Tower is only 3 feet taller than UP.

Yeah the lack of height variety makes our skyline appear unassuming, when in reality the is a fair amount of height there.

[NEDodger]

This quote is from the Holland Greenspace thread, but I'm replying to it here so as to not take the Holland Greenspace thread off-topic:

If the surface lot at 11th and Douglas is too critical to the Holland. Perhaps Lanoha and HDR can make a deal and build a 50 story residential/office tower on the old UP lot.

I really like the idea of different developers combining their forces to build a 40-50 story tower instead of two ~20 story towers. Our skyline will become basically a long east to west row of 15-20 story buildings + FNB & Woodmen if HDR, Lanoha, and Tetrad got built at their expected heights. It would be nice to have some more height variety in there.

That'd be amazing. Relatively close to FNB Tower too, so it would make sense. Include ground level retail, excess space for FNB, excess space for UP and residential.

[Midwestern]

Well there have always been rumors of FNB eventually building a second tower, so I'm hoping they eventually build a second 30-40 story tower of their own.

But I think it makes a ton of sense for a residential + office tower combination to happen. The lower floors obviously would be the office portion, and then have the condos/apartments be the top floors with the better views. But it seems like everyone lately is always wanting to have their "own" everything -- own buildings, own parking garage, etc.

[Linkin5]

Well there have always been rumors of FNB eventually building a second tower, so I'm hoping they eventually build a second 30-40 story tower of their own.

But I think it makes a ton of sense for a residential + office tower combination to happen. The lower floors obviously would be the office portion, and then have the condos/apartments be the top floors with the better views. But it seems like everyone lately is always wanting to have their "own" everything -- own buildings, own parking garage, etc.

I always have wondered the validity of this rumor, we have been hearing it for over a decade now.

[Midwestern]

Does anyone have any ideas/estimates on how many office workers FNB has in buildings other than its main tower?

A tall tower on the southeast corner of 16th & Dodge that included office space as well as residential would be perfect for improving the skyline, as well as a perfect location for additional space for FNB and UP. And it would be right next door to two hotels, parking garages, etc.

FNB owns that lot I believe.

[RNcyanide]

Well there have always been rumors of FNB eventually building a second tower, so I'm hoping they eventually build a second 30-40 story tower of their own.

But I think it makes a ton of sense for a residential + office tower combination to happen. The lower floors obviously would be the office portion, and then have the condos/apartments be the top floors with the better views. But it seems like everyone lately is always wanting to have their "own" everything -- own buildings, own parking garage, etc.

I always have wondered the validity of this rumor, we have been hearing it for over a decade now.

Same. I don't believe it. If they need more space, I would like to see maybe some other locations filled, such as CPP and 1200 Landmark.

[iamjacobm]

FNB doesn't even use their whole towers. Between the two branded FNB there is over 70K SF available.

[nebport5]

We need another building to compliment mutual. Not necessarily as tall, but something in the 375' range to help fill in the skyline. Des moines is going to look better at certain angles with 515 walnut going up.

Ideal one here would have been Kiewit. I appreciate the kind of cleaning up of north downtown, but would have traded that for a 450-foot Kiewit HQ.

to me the ideal would have been HDR then Kiewit

How about I meet you halfway and go with “both”?

What are the odds of the city approaching Physicians Mutual for a relocation to 1416 Dodge and a land swap to redevelop their current campus?

[Brad]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

[nebport5]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

1,400...ish employees I believe. Perhaps not large enough for most of us on their own, but as part of a mixed use tower?

[Renovator2559]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

HDR doesn't fully occupy its tower, it leases 4 floors to another company.

Depending on how successful Physician's Mutual is as a company, they could probably build a tower and lease sections to other companies, that is if this practice is practical and profitable.

[NEDodger]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

HDR doesn't fully occupy its tower, it leases 4 floors to another company.

Depending on how successful Physician's Mutual is as a company, they could probably build a tower and lease sections to other companies, that is if this practice is practical and profitable.

Probably a good candidate if we get a high end hotel to take up another 8 stories. I just have to think that Class A office space isn’t in huge demand with all these conversions to apartments.

[Garrett]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

HDR doesn't fully occupy its tower, it leases 4 floors to another company.

Depending on how successful Physician's Mutual is as a company, they could probably build a tower and lease sections to other companies, that is if this practice is practical and profitable.

Probably a good candidate if we get a high end hotel to take up another 8 stories. I just have to think that Class A office space isn’t in huge demand with all these conversions to apartments.

I'm not sure any of the offices that have been converted would be considered Class A.

That said, the redevelopment of the Physician's Mutual campus would probably be harder than the development of the Civic site.

[Gobears27]

Isn’t the physicians mutual building right next to the Joslyn art museum? Could the museum buy the land and building to work as their next expansion project in 10-15 years when physicians mutual would move into this hypothetical new building.

[Garrett]

Isn’t the physicians mutual building right next to the Joslyn art museum? Could the museum buy the land and building to work as their next expansion project in 10-15 years when physicians mutual would move into this hypothetical new building.

Any Joslyn expansion would have to deal with going across 24th street, and even then would probably only take up a fraction of the site. Joslyn has about 4 city blocks as its current campus, comparable to the Civic Site. Physicians Mutual is pushing 9, though a fair bit of that on the margins is taken up by the 480

[Gobears27]

I was thinking Joslyn could reuse the existing building as an “addition” and make the rest of the site a park/sculpture garden. Then Joslyn would have more than enough space for for the future.

[nebport5]

I was thinking Joslyn could reuse the existing building as an “addition” and make the rest of the site a park/sculpture garden. Then Joslyn would have more than enough space for for the future.

I like the idea of a Joslyn expansion and preserving Physicians lovely green space with mature trees. While Jazz on the Green is a good fit at Turner Park, it was a shame to lose the previous green space at Joslyn. Of course, there wasn't much choice given the 4ish blocks Garrett mentioned. A museum expansion would surely require more parking. I'd love to see an artful pedestrian bridge over 24th St. I wouldn't like to see all of those 9ish blocks turned to concrete.

Now as far as redeveloping the rest of the P. M. campus the parts I think would be the most intriguing are; One the western 480 border where the current parking garage and parking lot are(especially if the lid happens nearby). Two, the northern/eastern portion(think where the Bluejay used to be). Of course, if part of 480 comes down that opens up more land and greater possibilities.

[Stan]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

HDR doesn't fully occupy its tower, it leases 4 floors to another company.

I'm here and aside from the first floor retail, this isn't the case. HDR has grown in recent years and is at capacity in the building.

[Renovator2559]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

HDR doesn't fully occupy its tower, it leases 4 floors to another company.

I'm here and aside from the first floor retail, this isn't the case. HDR has grown in recent years and is at capacity in the building.

So the other company residing at HDR has moved on? So as to allow HDR to fully occupy its tower?
I wish I could remember the name of the company, which I visited their section at HDR, once in 2020.

[Doctor Fate]

So right now we have The Beam and Project Health as our announced high rises.

And we have the following locations with potential high rise announcements:
- Drury Hotel site at 10th and Harney
- Third convention center hotel at Lot B
- 1416 Dodge
- Mutual Midtown Campus
- Block east of the Mutual Tower

[nebport5]

So right now we have The Beam and Project Health as our announced high rises.

And we have the following locations with potential high rise announcements:
- Drury Hotel site at 10th and Harney
- Third convention center hotel at Lot B
- 1416 Dodge
- Mutual Midtown Campus
- Block east of the Mutual Tower

perhaps Mercantile hotel as another potential.

[Stan]

Physicians large enough for a tower?

HDR doesn't fully occupy its tower, it leases 4 floors to another company.

I'm here and aside from the first floor retail, this isn't the case. HDR has grown in recent years and is at capacity in the building.

So the other company residing at HDR has moved on? So as to allow HDR to fully occupy its tower?
I wish I could remember the name of the company, which I visited their section at HDR, once in 2020.

Yeah, for the past two years at least it's just HDR and bustling at the seams of the building.

[Flyer14]

Have to imagine Project Health will be on standby for some time due to funding cutbacks.

[Louie]

Have to imagine Project Health will be on standby for some time due to funding cutbacks.

Oh I didn’t even think about that. How far along was funding on that project though?

[Flyer14]

Have to imagine Project Health will be on standby for some time due to funding cutbacks.

Oh I didn’t even think about that. How far along was funding on that project though?

They had a huge amount already promised by donors, in true Omaha fashion lol. However this project is so insanely expensive that there is a looong ways to go, and always was planning on both state and federal dollars. Maybe I can dig a bit for the numbers.

[Garrett]

I had thought that Project NeXT had turned into Project Health in part because the first phase was pulling back from federal funding/a national focus to be more Nebraska oriented.

[Doctor Fate]

Have to imagine Project Health will be on standby for some time due to funding cutbacks.

Oh I didn’t even think about that. How far along was funding on that project though?

They had $1 billion in private funding and said the project would be $2.19 billion.

I had thought that Project NeXT had turned into Project Health in part because the first phase was pulling back from federal funding/a national focus to be more Nebraska oriented.

The Nebraska Examiner said Project Health was the first phase of Project NExT.

[Flyer14]

After speaking with someone more familiar with the new hospital tower. More than likely goals will be pushed back, but it was reiterated that this isn’t something that won’t happen l, it has to happen. The cost to continually update Clarkson and university towers is growing exponentially. They did also expect the price to increase and will need to seek additional funding as the project grows. Hopefully more will be announced and finalized later this year, but it seems like the hospital tower is still long term.