Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

[GenX]

Keep in mind that the crown will go around 40 ft higher than the core.

I was thinking that it will go a little bit higher than what it currently is too.

I’m starting to wonder if the 677 feet was based roof height rather than crown height.

[Busguy2010]

Keep in mind that the crown will go around 40 ft higher than the core.

I was thinking that it will go a little bit higher than what it currently is too.

I’m starting to wonder if the 677 feet was based roof height rather than crown height.

I'm going with that it "looks" barely taller than FNB. At around the same number of floors, the same height, I don't care if the crown makes it look a little taller. I would bet 677 would be with the crown. Either way its splitting hairs. I really, really wish they made an effort for it to look and be apparent. If they were gonna get that close to 700, why not just do it for the heck of it?

IMO, it looks a little proportionally short, especially given a third of it is parking garage. Not complaining by any stretch, I just feel they didn't quite clean their plate. Its like if you go to do the 72oz steak challenge and can't choke down the final bite. Ever so close, but not quite. I still like it as an addition to our skyline.

[OmahaFan]

The building they promised us is at or near the same height as the FNBT. Kinda silly they got the green light if it was not going to be apparently bigger. Maybe another company will come in and demolish the State Govt Office and build a bigger tower.

[almighty_tuna]

They own the land and built the building that works for them at a height commensurate with its location within the CBD. If you're looking for nice round numbers, then consider the building is Omaha's first 200m+ tower.

What a weird sense of entitlement about 23ft. What's even weirder is that if the building were 23ft taller at 700ft it STILL wouldn't look significantly taller than FNBO but that would still somehow satisfy many on this board. MoO doesn't owe us sh1t.

I hope Megasaver comes in and builds a 4 over 1 data center on the state office building site. You'd all deserve it.

[CBJason]

Either way its splitting hairs. I really, really wish they made an effort for it to look and be apparent. If they were gonna get that close to 700, why not just do it for the heck of it?

My only gripe about this project since it was announced!

[NEDodger]

They own the land and built the building that works for them at a height commensurate with its location within the CBD. If you're looking for nice round numbers, then consider the building is Omaha's first 200m+ tower.

What a weird sense of entitlement about 23ft. What's even weirder is that if the building were 23ft taller at 700ft it STILL wouldn't look significantly taller than FNBO but that would still somehow satisfy many on this board. MoO doesn't owe us sh1t.

I hope Megasaver comes in and builds a 4 over 1 data center on the state office building site. You'd all deserve it.

This. It’s our first noteworthy building in over 20 years and we’re complaining about 23 feet for…..why?

If this is so annoying, pretend that they announced it was going to be 600 feet and they are giving us an extra 77.

[nebport5]

They own the land and built the building that works for them at a height commensurate with its location within the CBD. If you're looking for nice round numbers, then consider the building is Omaha's first 200m+ tower.

What a weird sense of entitlement about 23ft. What's even weirder is that if the building were 23ft taller at 700ft it STILL wouldn't look significantly taller than FNBO but that would still somehow satisfy many on this board. MoO doesn't owe us sh1t.

I hope Megasaver comes in and builds a 4 over 1 data center on the state office building site. You'd all deserve it.

LOL.

If some of the newbies go back and search the thread I believe the actual Mutual height difference with elevation was calculated to be something around 7 ft. If you ask me even without the crown, Mutual is already noticeably taller from a number of angles.



Here’s another more grateful perspective.

In the last 25 years this is the only major downtown project(high-rise/skyscraper/headquarters, hotel, etc) that wasn’t scaled back or eliminated all together.

Union Pacific Center - originally 25 stories to 19

One First National Center - originally 50 stories to 45

Wallstreet Tower - 32 stories to project never built

Marriott Convention Center Hotel - 28 stories to the current low-rider Hilton.

HDR- 16 stories to 10 at Aksarben

[Busguy2010]

I hope Megasaver comes in and builds a 4 over 1 data center on the state office building site. You'd all deserve it.

Well, I'd have to say that's even more "weird" than wishing the tower was a little taller.

I'm not necessarily number chasing, I just wish you could tell its taller. As it will be, you have to really squint at it. Does it really matter? Well, no, of course not. Am I ungrateful for wishing you could easily differentiate it? I dont believe I am. And they were not at all obligated to do anything other than what they have.

I just have a personal wish that, since, on average, we've gone 25 years between skyline shaping towers, that they would have made it clearly taller. As it is, its just taller by the number. I wish it was visually taller. Honestly since its barely taller than FNBO, part of me wonders if they truly didn't even want it to be taller purely for their uses, but they were so close, they said "might as well". Much the same ideation that I have with going to 700. "Might as well".

Now If I really got what I was looking for, Id say ~ 750 would have accomplished that. It is what it is. I'm still glad we're getting what we're getting.

[Busguy2010]

Mutual is already noticeably taller from a number of angles.

Just to be certain the ol horse is beaten to death, I think the only truly fair angles to gauge it from are the Ballpark and the 24th street bridge over the railroad tracks.

Of course it looks taller coming into Downtown from the east and from the south on 10th, 13th, 16th. Their location is good for the perception.

Just to be sure I'm not ungrateful, I do still appreciate what were getting as it is.

[guy4omaha]

I am glad MOO
is not taller than it is. The rest of the skyline filling in is a bigger priority for me than each new building "looking" taller than the last.

[nebport5]

I am glad MOO
is not taller than it is. The rest of the skyline filling in is a bigger priority for me than each new building "looking" taller than the last.

And honestly the way MOO was designed it not only adds height, but also density and ties the whole skyline in together looking more cohesive vs. just two tall building sticking out amongst the rest.

[Busguy2010]

I am glad MOO
is not taller than it is. The rest of the skyline filling in is a bigger priority for me than each new building "looking" taller than the last.

And honestly the way MOO was designed it not only adds height, but also density and ties the whole skyline in together looking more cohesive vs. just two tall building sticking out amongst the rest.

I get what you guys are saying. But I'm coming from the viewpoint thereof that its not like we have a cr@p ton of developable lots left in that immediate Downtown core. The Mutual tower being a few blocks away poking up like that on an island, basically said "there, now fill it in". So I'd much rather optimize what few opportunities there are. I really don't care that 1416 Dodge has been a grass lot for 20 years, its a prime spot that should have a fittingly tall building on it, and Id rather wait for the right one to come in, rather than just some relatively insignificant 400 foot building. I feel the same about the State office. And I really don’t like how theres a height limit on the lot to the east. Thats basically loosely stating that the Mutual tower may be the end all-be all. I dont know why we wouldnt want to strive to have a skyline like Minneapolis just because one building would be taller than another for a while.

[BRoss]

BREAKING: Mutual has heard your complaints and will be adding an antenna to increase the height. The building will now be 699 ft.
/jk

[stadsborgare]

If you look at it another way, if some other corporation decides they want the tallest building in the city, they only have to eclipse 677' and we'll get another tower out of it.

[GenX]

The building they promised us is at or near the same height as the FNBT. Kinda silly they got the green light if it was not going to be apparently bigger. Maybe another company will come in and demolish the State Govt Office and build a bigger tower.

I had an Uber rider the other week that works at the SOB, and they said it went from “we’re selling within the next 18 months” to “the building has been sold and we have 6 months to get out”

Take that with a grain of salt.

[GenX]

They own the land and built the building that works for them at a height commensurate with its location within the CBD. If you're looking for nice round numbers, then consider the building is Omaha's first 200m+ tower.

What a weird sense of entitlement about 23ft. What's even weirder is that if the building were 23ft taller at 700ft it STILL wouldn't look significantly taller than FNBO but that would still somehow satisfy many on this board. MoO doesn't owe us sh1t.

I hope Megasaver comes in and builds a 4 over 1 data center on the state office building site. You'd all deserve it.

This. It’s our first noteworthy building in over 20 years and we’re complaining about 23 feet for…..why?

If this is so annoying, pretend that they announced it was going to be 600 feet and they are giving us an extra 77.

I’m not complaining about the height, I’d be happy with 677’. As others have mentioned, it already looks taller from several angles without the crown, so it’s confusing as we’ve been told the crown will extend up beyond the 44th floor “quite a bit”. Also, many buildings lately seem to be measured by roof height, not overall height.

[Huskerbum]

They own the land and built the building that works for them at a height commensurate with its location within the CBD. If you're looking for nice round numbers, then consider the building is Omaha's first 200m+ tower.

What a weird sense of entitlement about 23ft. What's even weirder is that if the building were 23ft taller at 700ft it STILL wouldn't look significantly taller than FNBO but that would still somehow satisfy many on this board. MoO doesn't owe us sh1t.

I hope Megasaver comes in and builds a 4 over 1 data center on the state office building site. You'd all deserve it.

This. It’s our first noteworthy building in over 20 years and we’re complaining about 23 feet for…..why?

If this is so annoying, pretend that they announced it was going to be 600 feet and they are giving us an extra 77.

I’m not complaining about the height, I’d be happy with 677’. As others have mentioned, it already looks taller from several angles without the crown, so it’s confusing as we’ve been told the crown will extend up beyond the 44th floor “quite a bit”. Also, many buildings lately seem to be measured by roof height, not overall height.

Skyscraperpage gives you the height at the roof, spire, and antenna. The last 2 only of the building has those features obviously. I’m fairly certain the 677 includes the crown.

[nebugeater]

BREAKING: Mutual has heard your complaints and will be adding an antenna to increase the height. The building will now be 699 ft.
/jk

But with an antenna that will make the overall height variable and dependent on the strength and direction of the wind. With that in play, I am guessing we will need a scoreboard-like device to indicate in real time, to keep track of the height, to satisfy some individuals.

[nebport5]

They own the land and built the building that works for them at a height commensurate with its location within the CBD. If you're looking for nice round numbers, then consider the building is Omaha's first 200m+ tower.

What a weird sense of entitlement about 23ft. What's even weirder is that if the building were 23ft taller at 700ft it STILL wouldn't look significantly taller than FNBO but that would still somehow satisfy many on this board. MoO doesn't owe us sh1t.

I hope Megasaver comes in and builds a 4 over 1 data center on the state office building site. You'd all deserve it.

This. It’s our first noteworthy building in over 20 years and we’re complaining about 23 feet for…..why?

If this is so annoying, pretend that they announced it was going to be 600 feet and they are giving us an extra 77.

I’m not complaining about the height, I’d be happy with 677’. As others have mentioned, it already looks taller from several angles without the crown, so it’s confusing as we’ve been told the crown will extend up beyond the 44th floor “quite a bit”. Also, many buildings lately seem to be measured by roof height, not overall height.

I’m thinking the answer maybe be in one of your earlier posts here. Particularly, notice the of the top of the core to the top of the crown. “Quite a bit”…is relative. I think some of us were expecting the crown to start after the core, yet in that first model pic, it would have to start well before compared to the renderings.

[Linkin5]

Yeah I have no idea how much height the crown will add, but here is a model MoO had in their planning docs.

[iamjacobm]

Doesn't help with any exact heights, but they did say Mutual's top floor is modeled after Northwestern Mutual's new tower's top floor in Milwaukee. If you call the people in the photo of that floor complete at 6 foot you have some pretty nice height for that top floor.

[GenX]

Yeah I have no idea how much height the crown will add, but here is a model MoO had in their planning docs.

Going off of those lines, the crown should be the same height as the amenities level plus two floors or 50-60 ft. They’re saying the tower is currently the tallest building in Omaha and most surrounding states, so that would mean it’s taller than FNBO tower and the crown hasn’t even been added yet.

[PotatoeEatsFish]

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[mikey cee]

Why doesn't floor 41 have a light line drawn thru it like all of the other floors? Is floor 40 a high mechanical/HVAC area instead? The line(floor) wasn't just forgotten.

[GenX]

Why doesn't floor 41 have a light line drawn thru it like all of the other floors? Is floor 40 a high mechanical/HVAC area instead? The line(floor) wasn't just forgotten.

The far western portion of floor 15, top deck of the garage, is the mechanical heart of the building. That A_A YouTube account has videos of equipment being loaded in.

Floor 40 is a normal height floor (15 feet). Floor 44 is a double-height floor (30 feet). Floor 16, the amenities floor isn’t quite double height, but it’s taller than the standard floors.

[skinzfan23]

Couple more floors of steel going up. Again, you can tell the inward curve is taking place.

[mikey cee]

How about some photos from 24th and Farnam and Harney streets. Got enough |expletive| from the east and north to gag a moggot. Even a few from the Post Office area would be great too!

[thenewguy]

Yeah I have no idea how much height the crown will add, but here is a model MoO had in their planning docs.

First and foremost, I will declare that the splitting hairs on actual height is ridiculous It's a big ol' tall building that looks great, so I'll take it. However, based on the diagram, you can see where there are openings in the crown; I can't imagine the core would be visible between those gaps, so I would have to assume there is an additional portion that will extend upward that isn't currently visible, thus increasing the overall height

[thenewguy]

The building they promised us is at or near the same height as the FNBT. Kinda silly they got the green light if it was not going to be apparently bigger. Maybe another company will come in and demolish the State Govt Office and build a bigger tower.

I had an Uber rider the other week that works at the SOB, and they said it went from “we’re selling within the next 18 months” to “the building has been sold and we have 6 months to get out”

Take that with a grain of salt.

that's a spicy little nugget right there. I hope your rider is right. In this spot, something slightly taller than UP would be sufficient. It'd fill in nicely

[BuildTaller]

Couple more floors of steel going up. Again, you can tell the inward curve is taking place.

I like how you can't see the gonads, I mean, parking garage from this angle.

I googled worlds tallest parking garages and this one would be on a top list. It was a bit hard gathering the data as there are different types of parking garages, but this one would probably make top 50 in the world. The cladding around the garage looks nice though.

[Brad]

How about some photos from 24th and Farnam and Harney streets. Got enough |expletive| from the east and north to gag a moggot. Even a few from the Post Office area would be great too!

I post photos from by the post office all the time. Literally postal workers smoking 20’ from me when I take them.

As far as 24th and Farnam, I’m usually downtown in the morning and that’s why my photos are usually from the east. Last time I was downtown in the afternoon I posted that photo from the Civic site.

[nebugeater]

How about some photos from 24th and Farnam and Harney streets. Got enough |expletive| from the east and north to gag a moggot. Even a few from the Post Office area would be great too!

Where are the photos you have taken and shared

[NEDodger]

How about some photos from 24th and Farnam and Harney streets. Got enough |expletive| from the east and north to gag a moggot. Even a few from the Post Office area would be great too!

If you’re not taking these yourself, I’m sure you could hire someone like Brad Williams Photography to take these for you.

[mikey cee]

Well if I wasn't handicapped I could put some but by no means all to shame....if that's the word you like. Now that we've neared the actual top of the core and steel is rising fast the picture taking has gone almost bye bye. When this thing started there were pictures galore. Oh look we went up another floor...."pic" another floor...."Pic". Just look at all the glass going up floor by floor. But when we near being topped out no more pics period that show at a distance MOO's relative height to the FNBOT! If that's complaining some haven't been around the proverbial "block" much in life!

[Garrett]

That is, by definition, complaining.

[Busguy2010]

How about some photos from 24th and Farnam and Harney streets. Got enough |expletive| from the east and north to gag a moggot. Even a few from the Post Office area would be great too!

I just caught KETV weather and they had a shot of Downtown from the livestock exchange building at 30th & L. Thats also probably one of the fairest views, and the buildings are basically the same height. So if you watch KETV weather, you stand an alright chance of catching that angle for about 5 seconds. Of course anybody taking a photo will go for the glory shot. If I spent any time Downtown and had anything but my phone camera, I'd sure take em from the other perspectives.

I also just wanted to say I didn't see your post as a "complaint", as others are calling it. I saw it as a request. Guess it depends on the audience.

[NEDodger]

How about some photos from 24th and Farnam and Harney streets. Got enough |expletive| from the east and north to gag a moggot. Even a few from the Post Office area would be great too!

I also just wanted to say I didn't see your post as a "complaint", as others are calling it. I saw it as a request. Guess it depends on the audience.

He’s literally calling the photos people are posting freely for others an expletive. And then wanting these same people to take time out of their day, for free, to take pictures at angles he wants.

I didnt realize this board worked for him.

[GenX]

I’m all over the metro on a daily basis. If anyone needs pics of something, let me know and I’ll add it to the list.

[Busguy2010]

Probably from the flyover ramp from NB Kennedy FWY to WB I-80 is a good view. I've been on it plenty while its been shorter, but its a short glance, I rarely take my phone with me while I'm out, and it doesn't sound safe. But if anybodys up to it lol. Its a good high ground view from that perspective that for all intents and purposes, both buildings are the same distance away.

[mikey cee]

I didn't mean to infer or say that any individual's pics were inferior or not good in any way. Only that there were too many GLM shots and others on Abbott Drive etc. Would appreciate west bound shots from the Broadway viaduct, I 29 along the Missouri, Dodge St around 36th. Think of those poor employees at FNB. They are probably 'sick and tired" of those GLM shots that are so misleading. I know that that's life but go easy on the poor souls. As for the Woodmen the Harney at 24th St. can't be topped. What a view that is. These are suggestions not orders folks.