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Bob from Omaha wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 3:52 pm The Redick was renovated into a hotel in the mid 80's and neither White Lotus nor anyone associated with it had anything to do with it. I don't have anything against White Lotus but let's not give them credit for something they didn't do. I don't have time to post the stories about it but it was a gutsy thing to do at the time and there was no guaranty that it would succeed. Downtown was quite different in those days.
White Lotus is the company that purchased whatever cheap brand hotel was there previously and turned it in to the Deco
White Lotus wrote:White Lotus Group purchased the 97,000 square foot property in 2010 and renovated 89 hotel rooms, the restaurant, lobby, conference rooms and exterior. Historic tax credits were utilized.
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Brad wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 4:20 pm
Bob from Omaha wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 3:52 pm The Redick was renovated into a hotel in the mid 80's and neither White Lotus nor anyone associated with it had anything to do with it. I don't have anything against White Lotus but let's not give them credit for something they didn't do. I don't have time to post the stories about it but it was a gutsy thing to do at the time and there was no guaranty that it would succeed. Downtown was quite different in those days.
White Lotus is the company that purchased whatever cheap brand hotel was there previously and turned it in to the Deco
White Lotus wrote:White Lotus Group purchased the 97,000 square foot property in 2010 and renovated 89 hotel rooms, the restaurant, lobby, conference rooms and exterior. Historic tax credits were utilized.
That cheap brand was Radisson until it went independent.
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Bob from Omaha wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 4:58 pm That cheap brand was Radisson until it went independent.
Found these two pieces of information in the Deco thread"
ItsAllAboutMe wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:46 am Anyone know why "Best Western" signs have been removed from the hotel?, who bought it and is it staying as a hotel?
Steve Jordon WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER wrote: The 11-story hotel is in a former office building that was converted into a hotel in 1987 as a Radisson property. It dropped that affiliation in 1997 and had been a Best Western property until recently.
So it was a Best Western from 1997 to 2005 and then White Lotus purchased it in 2010 and converted it in to Hotel Deco.
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https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-resp ... r/70238052

Agricultural tax status requested?

These guys are a clown show... get them outta there and try to find someone at least somewhat capable of turning this into something real.
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djc311 wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:41 am Agricultural tax status requested?
IIRC they were growing weeds or alfalfa and having a farmer come and harvest it for forage feed as some loophole to show they were using the site.

Also...
almighty_tuna wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2025 9:29 am I'm not mad. This feels like the city is playing CYA to make sure that Lotus doesn't have standing for a lawsuit when the city takes the land back.
Looks like we have reached this stage.
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Saw that article last night. Glad that the city is taking control....hope there isn't any holdup or other lawsuits. Lets get them outta here and let someone else take over that can actually be competent.
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Get them out but what Suzy wants to do there is worse than them.
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OutoftheCanyon wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:01 am Get them out but what Suzy wants to do there is worse than them.
What did I miss here? Suzie?
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djc311 wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 8:41 am https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-resp ... r/70238052

Agricultural tax status requested?

These guys are a clown show... get them outta there and try to find someone at least somewhat capable of turning this into something real.
Ol' Hawkeye doesn't know why everyone is so surprised by this. After all, it makes perfect sense. Oh sure it may only represent 4 one hundred thousandths of one percent of all cropland in Nebraska.....but it's 100% of all tillable acres in Downtown Omaha!
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I wanted to believe these individuals were genuine, but there was always something strange about them. I have become skeptical of speculative property developments because of folks like these guys, Townsend, Minard, and others. Some may now even consider me a cynic.
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Toto wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:26 am
OutoftheCanyon wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:01 am Get them out but what Suzy wants to do there is worse than them.
What did I miss here? Suzie?
Yep. Behind the scenes nonprofit wants to take it over. Would be a horrible use of the space.
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OutoftheCanyon wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 3:06 pm
Toto wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:26 am
OutoftheCanyon wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 9:01 am Get them out but what Suzy wants to do there is worse than them.
What did I miss here? Suzie?
Yep. Behind the scenes nonprofit wants to take it over. Would be a horrible use of the space.
I'd say that would be a terrible site to hand over (or sell) for that purpose.
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That site may just be big enough for a Buc-ee's. Think about all the tourism that would draw.
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stadsborgare wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 3:23 pm That site may just be big enough for a Buc-ee's. Think about all the tourism that would draw.
Gretna would be displeased, but other than that, yeah. Or we could get a Costco with 500 feet of apartments that they oh-so generously built on top of the store for employees.
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WiinterU wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 4:36 pm
stadsborgare wrote: Wed Feb 04, 2026 3:23 pm That site may just be big enough for a Buc-ee's. Think about all the tourism that would draw.
Gretna would be displeased, but other than that, yeah. Or we could get a Costco with 500 feet of apartments that they oh-so generously built on top of the store for employees.
Honestly that wouldn't be so bad.
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I got a good pic of the construction activity at Civic Square form the Perigrene hotel rooftop bar.
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jjjjhskr wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2026 4:11 pm Image
I got a good pic of the construction activity at Civic Square form the Perigrene hotel rooftop bar.
How was the bar? Heard they recently did a remodel / rebranding... Wasn't up there to experience v1 to know if v2 was an upgrade...
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jjjjhskr wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2026 4:11 pm Image
I got a good pic of the construction activity at Civic Square form the Perigrene hotel rooftop bar.
Awesome. They'll definitely be going vertical in.......60-90 days.

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Ben wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2026 8:01 am
jjjjhskr wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2026 4:11 pm Image
I got a good pic of the construction activity at Civic Square form the Perigrene hotel rooftop bar.
How was the bar? Heard they recently did a remodel / rebranding... Wasn't up there to experience v1 to know if v2 was an upgrade...
Really good. They added a glass wall of the west side to stop the wind that comes in strong there and they now expect to be open 9 months a year. They also added a fireplace and electric heaters. They also have a happy hour now.
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Most activity on the site in years... pouring the street today for the reintegrated grid.

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So is the city not taking the land back? Thought they were in the process but I havent heard anything in ages.
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CompSci99 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:26 pm So is the city not taking the land back? Thought they were in the process but I havent heard anything in ages.
Perhaps White Lotus is continuing work to try to beef up their case in court.
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Why did I think the city of Omaha was in charge of the utilities and roads? Maybe that was a total misstep on my end haha.
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Garrett wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:29 pm
CompSci99 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:26 pm So is the city not taking the land back? Thought they were in the process but I havent heard anything in ages.
Perhaps White Lotus is continuing work to try to beef up their case in court.
Bingo.
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That looks more like an alley. It's very narrow.
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ita wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 4:08 pm
Garrett wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:29 pm
CompSci99 wrote: Tue Mar 24, 2026 3:26 pm So is the city not taking the land back? Thought they were in the process but I havent heard anything in ages.
Perhaps White Lotus is continuing work to try to beef up their case in court.
Bingo.
If we really end up getting this development that should ideally be built at 180th and dodge, I'm going to be insanely upset. This will effectively end the skylines growth to the north for decades if we dont get something with some height.
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It's silly this clown show is still even on the property doing anything - they should put in a stop order of some sort to prevent any additional development. I would believe this is a viable option if the city is correct in stating the developer has not met their deadline obligations.
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Delrey512 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 10:20 pm Image
Are they hand pouring that street and not using a slipform paver?
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Brad wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2026 7:55 am
Delrey512 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 10:20 pm Image
Are they hand pouring that street and not using a slipform paver?
omg you're right, no slipform here:
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what a joke of an operation
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Caption should read...
MCC construction students visit Civic Square for learning study. Students get up and close to a poorly designed sidewalk.
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Louie wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2026 8:05 am
Brad wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2026 7:55 am
Delrey512 wrote: Wed Mar 25, 2026 10:20 pm Image
Are they hand pouring that street and not using a slipform paver?
omg you're right, no slipform here:
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what a joke of an operation
All this is going to do is end up causing more delays and additional costs when they take it back and tear out whatever they're screwing up now.

What a joke.
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Hmm...

"Available October 1st, 2026"

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/301-N-1 ... /39711563/
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nebport5 wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2026 11:42 am Hmm...

"Available October 1st, 2026"

https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/301-N-1 ... /39711563/
How are these guys still allowed to touch this property? Hand pouring concrete - my daughter even knows you need forms. And they're now saying they have retail and/or office space available to move into 6 months from now?

Someone must be scripting them for legal reasons. Unless they drop in pre-made structures, there's no possible way they will have a building (besides a construction trailer) before EOY. Maybe they signed on a Hot N Now restaurant and they'll deliver it in two halves.
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Dear White Lotus,

Give up.

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According to Reddit, White Lotus has taken the bold move of painting over the renderings on the trailer
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Garrett wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:58 am According to Reddit, White Lotus has taken the bold move of painting over the renderings on the trailer
I really have never understood why White Lotus was selected for this since they have never done anything close to this and there are developers in Omaha who have.
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jjjjhskr wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 10:19 am
Garrett wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:58 am According to Reddit, White Lotus has taken the bold move of painting over the renderings on the trailer
I really have never understood why White Lotus was selected for this since they have never done anything close to this and there are developers in Omaha who have.
Stothert helped to push along a lot of good things. This was not one of them.
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Garrett wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:58 am According to Reddit, White Lotus has taken the bold move of painting over the renderings on the trailer
Any weight to the rumor of Susan Buffet wanting a Central High swimming pool on the site?
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locoluke wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 1:25 pm
Garrett wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2026 9:58 am According to Reddit, White Lotus has taken the bold move of painting over the renderings on the trailer
Any weight to the rumor of Susan Buffet wanting a Central High swimming pool on the site?
There has to be more to this story. There's no way a high school swimming pool should take up four blocks of your downtown core.