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Platteview Road future a hot topic
Plans for the road have moved front and center because a bridge being built over the Missouri River will connect with it.
Springfield Mayor Mike Dill, speaking from the audience, told officials that Platteview Road is key to his city's development. Uncertainty about its route is a major obstacle for developers planning to bring new homes or businesses to Springfield, Dill said.

Real estate agents said uncertainty about the route makes it difficult to sell land or homes in the area.

"They don't know the value of their property because they don't know if they're going to be moved out in a year or 20 years," Melissa Jarecke, a real estate agent with NP Dodge Real Estate and a County Board candidate, said of people living in the Platteview Road area.
Officials also heard calls for Nebraska Highway 370 to be the southern portion of a beltway around the metropolitan Omaha area instead of Platteview Road, because Highway 370 is already an east-west four-lane highway with a connection to Interstate 80. Under that scenario, Platteview Road would retain its rural nature.

Because Platteview Road already reaches east-west across Sarpy County, its potential to be the southern loop of an Omaha beltway has frequently been mentioned.
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Gosh, to think this is really just all about lining the pockets of real estate developers. I didn't see that coming.
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Would it not make seance to have Platteview be the southern part of the beltway with it linking up with the new US 34 bridge. Wouldn't seem smart to turn 370 into it with there being development along it in a few spots, that could make re configuring spots for inter changes hard
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Hypothetically, of course. As in, "in my fantasy of a beltway...," right?
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Turtle9160 wrote:Would it not make seance to have Platteview be the southern part of the beltway with it linking up with the new US 34 bridge. Wouldn't seem smart to turn 370 into it with there being development along it in a few spots, that could make re configuring spots for inter changes hard
I think, using West Dodge as an example of how to fit an expressway in tighter development, 370 could be converted to an expressway fairly easily and at less expense since it's already 4 lanes with a lot of easement between US75 and I-80.

However, I'm not convinced we actually need a beltway. It would be great to get truck traffic off of I80 through the city but IMO there's a better way to spend that transportation $$ on other projects around town.
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almighty_tuna wrote:...but IMO there's a better way to spend that transportation $$ on other projects around town.
+5 urbans.
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I think, using West Dodge as an example of how to fit an expressway in tighter development, 370 could be converted to an expressway fairly easily and at less expense since it's already 4 lanes with a lot of easement between US75 and I-80.
I can't figure out why we're so stupid as to not take these things into account when zoning/approving developments. Both 370 AND Highway 6 to Gretna would have made provided perfect stretches for a metro beltway.. but allowing continued development of these stretches with no regard for the larger role these tracts could have played has quickly made it an impossibility.
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Stargazer wrote:
I think, using West Dodge as an example of how to fit an expressway in tighter development, 370 could be converted to an expressway fairly easily and at less expense since it's already 4 lanes with a lot of easement between US75 and I-80.
I can't figure out why we're so stupid as to not take these things into account when zoning/approving developments. Both 370 AND Highway 6 to Gretna would have made provided perfect stretches for a metro beltway.. but allowing continued development of these stretches with no regard for the larger role these tracts could have played has quickly made it an impossibility.
If they shifted north from 370 around 198th Street just before Gretna, Highway 6 would still be a good route until you get around the Elkhorn area. Then after that, it'd get more complicated.

I personally think a beltway makes a lot of sense. You would have a south bypass going to I-29, diverting a lot of traffic going I-80 east to I-29 south or I-29 north to I-80 west. And having a western/northern bypass connecting up to the northern I-680 exit off I-29 would allow people to bypass the city going I-80 W/E. This would make a lot of truckers bypass actually going through Omaha making traffic on the city stretches better.
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Yeah, ultimately what we're going to have is a KC like 435... which largely doesn't see nearly enough use until the sprawl catches up with it decades later. Might as well allocate the funds towards a mass transit system serving what we already have... as gas prices will eventually render such a beltway useless anyway as we're all fighting to get back to the core.
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"The right to have access to every building in the city by private motorcar in an age when everyone possesses such a vehicle is actually the right to destroy the city."
Lewis Mumford, The Highway and the City, 1963

I reread the quote above. I disagree with his premise. No one ever said it was a right. It's supply and demand and a democratic society. Of course he said it in 1963.
Would he have suggested that people were forbidden to own vehicles? Be made to drive on 2 lane roads and park miles away from, say, the hospital? Lewis, I just don't buy the concept.
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The beltway is good idea imo, but using 370 for it isn't. Platteview is far better suited now in terms of there being very little development along it and it routing into the new US34 crossing near LaPlatte, Platteview is for the most part a straight shot from 75 to I80 the only spot it would be tricky is near Springfield would have to jog a bit go the north there
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Beltway=unsustainable infrastructure investment and reasonable land usage killer.
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In my opinion, this country should take a lead and substantially change all its development from car-based to public transportation based. Not against anybody in the suburbs as nothing to do with global warming is our faults, but the fault of those industrial pioneers before us. Anyway, with where the health of the environment is moving, we can't be quick enough to stop using our cars and to stop using oil in general. Unfortunately, we're so far in that we can't just get out. Any step in the right direction would be great for me, so I'm for this beltway not being built.
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Busguy2010 wrote:In my opinion, this country should take a lead and substantially change all its development from car-based to public transportation based. Not against anybody in the suburbs as nothing to do with global warming is our faults, but the fault of those industrial pioneers before us. Anyway, with where the health of the environment is moving, we can't be quick enough to stop using our cars and to stop using oil in general. Unfortunately, we're so far in that we can't just get out. Any step in the right direction would be great for me, so I'm for this beltway not being built.
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