Creighton Basketball 2019-2020

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:41 pm

Congrats to the Jays- Big East regular season Champions!.. 77-60 over Seton Hall..

Monster games from Marcus, Ty-Shon and Denzel (everyone really)..

I hope Zeg’s knee is a minor injury. Let’s make some noise at MSG!!!!...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:44 pm

Wowza, gotta say... after that St. Johns drubbing I didn't know what was going to happen here... but holy moly that was something else. I'm just in shock. From Valley team to Big East champs.

That said, Z's injury is a huggggeeeeeeeeeeeee worry. I hope it's nothing major.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:46 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:44 pm That said, Z's injury is a huggggeeeeeeeeeeeee worry. I hope it's nothing major.

Yep. That’s the only wet blanket on what has been a glorious day of basketball in Omaha, Nebraska...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:56 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:46 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:44 pm That said, Z's injury is a huggggeeeeeeeeeeeee worry. I hope it's nothing major.
Yep. That’s the only wet blanket on what has been a glorious day of basketball in Omaha, Nebraska...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

He did climb the ladder to cut down the nets. I would HOPE that if it was a big deal the staff wouldn't let him do that *fingers crossed*

Meanwhile, I'm still in shock and I've busted out the hard liquor to celebrate... It's almost 5 o clock, right?

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:02 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:56 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:46 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:44 pm That said, Z's injury is a huggggeeeeeeeeeeeee worry. I hope it's nothing major.
Yep. That’s the only wet blanket on what has been a glorious day of basketball in Omaha, Nebraska...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
He did climb the ladder to cut down the nets. I would HOPE that if it was a big deal the staff wouldn't let him do that *fingers crossed*

Meanwhile, I'm still in shock and I've busted out the hard liquor to celebrate... It's almost 5 o clock, right?

True. Using my internet Medical degree, I’d say that’s a good sign..

And yep- I’m about to bust into an adult celebratory beverage myself! Lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:09 pm

Congrats Creighton and fans.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:12 pm

Linkin5 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:09 pm Congrats Creighton and fans.

Gotta say, you called it after St. Johns. Good call.

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:50 pm

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Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:58 pm

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Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:26 pm

So does that mean they are THE Big East Champions? What is the point of the conference tournament if they are? I haven't really followed college basketball.

Post by **Brad** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:08 pm

Busguy2010 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:26 pm So does that mean they are THE Big East Champions? What is the point of the conference tournament if they are? I haven't really followed college basketball.

No, they are the Regular Season Co-Champions. The Big East Tournament starts Wednesday and CU is the #1 seed. There will be a "Tournament Champion" too

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:39 pm

Brad wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:08 pm
Busguy2010 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:26 pm So does that mean they are THE Big East Champions? What is the point of the conference tournament if they are? I haven't really followed college basketball.
No, they are the Regular Season Co-Champions. The Big East Tournament starts Wednesday and CU is the #1 seed. There will be a "Tournament Champion" too

Being the regular season champion and #1 Big East Tournament seed means something. This is not just a Big East thing..

Regardless what happens in the Big East Tournament, winning the Big East will likely mean the Jays have locked in a #3 seed in the NCAA tournament. If Creighton wins the Big East Tournament however, they’ll lock in no lower than a #2, or possibly a #1 seed..

The Jays need to make noise in MSG next week too...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:45 am

Brad wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:08 pm
Busguy2010 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:26 pm So does that mean they are THE Big East Champions? What is the point of the conference tournament if they are? I haven't really followed college basketball.
No, they are the Regular Season Co-Champions. The Big East Tournament starts Wednesday and CU is the #1 seed. There will be a "Tournament Champion" too

So the regular season determines seedings for the tournament, and the tournament determines the real champion? That sounds straightforward, but the way they are regular season co champs is confusing. I dont see how Creighton isn't outright regular season champions given that they hold a tie breaker by beating Seton Hall both times.

Looking in from the outside, I'd give the regular season champs more credit because the tournament is over in a few days. How could a whole season count less than if somehow a, 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7, 8, 9, 10 seed got hot and won the conference tournament and all the sudden they win the championship?

Because I've confused myself even more, how do they ACTUALLY determine conference champions? Tournament or regular season? Or somehow both?

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:59 am

Don’t over think it..

In college basketball, you have the regular season champion and the tournament champion..

The champ for the regular season IS real. The Jays get to hang a banner for their accomplishment yesterday..and this does wonders for their program. If CU can pull off winning the conference tournament, it’s like icing on the cake AND will likely improve their NCAA tournament seeding from a #3, to likely a #2 or possibly a #1...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:30 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:59 am Don’t over think it..

In college basketball, you have the regular season champion and the tournament champion..

The champ for the regular season IS real. The Jays get to hang a banner for their accomplishment yesterday..and this does wonders for their program. If CU can pull off winning the conference tournament, it’s like icing on the cake AND will likely improve their NCAA tournament seeding from a #3, to likely a #2 or possibly a #1...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

It may not carry an automatic bid but being the regular season champ is WAY more impressive than being the conference tourney champ.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:58 pm

Linkin5 wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:30 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:59 am Don’t over think it..

In college basketball, you have the regular season champion and the tournament champion..

The champ for the regular season IS real. The Jays get to hang a banner for their accomplishment yesterday..and this does wonders for their program. If CU can pull off winning the conference tournament, it’s like icing on the cake AND will likely improve their NCAA tournament seeding from a #3, to likely a #2 or possibly a #1...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
It may not carry an automatic bid but being the regular season champ is WAY more impressive than being the conference tourney champ.

Agreed!..

Being the regular season champion means you earned it throughout the course of a grueling 2 months plus conference schedule..WAY more impressive..

As opposed to winning the conference tournament over a long weekend..Of course winning the tournament is icing on the cake

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 1:26 pm

Alexander, Zegarowski named to All-BIG EAST teams

Alexander was named to the All-BIG EAST first team after he led the Jays with 16.9 points per game, a mark good enough for third in the conference.

Zegarowski was named to the second team. He scored 16.1 points per game and led Creighton by averaging five assists per contest.

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:09 pm

After yesterday CU moved to a second seed in the bracket matrix.

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Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 3:55 pm

If the Jays win the conference tournament, they’ll flirt with a possible 1 seed. I think getting to at least the conference semis means a 2 or 3. Advancing to the championship game probably a 2. 1st round early exit, likely a 3..

I can’t see them dropping to a 4 now.. But stranger things have happened...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:04 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:44 pm Wowza, gotta say... after that St. Johns drubbing I didn't know what was going to happen here... but holy moly that was something else. I'm just in shock. From Valley team to Big East champs.

That said, Z's injury is a huggggeeeeeeeeeeeee worry. I hope it's nothing major.

I was responding to your last post about seeding and it somehow dissapeared

..

In any case, I agree with you. It seems weird to “complain” or be disappointed with a 4 seed, lol..

I’d like to think the Jays did enough in the regular season to earn a 3, regardless if they’re one and BBQ in the tournament..

But best case scenario, CU wins the conference tournament and a few upsets occur, they could “sneak” in as a 1 seed.. Wishful thinking for sure, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:52 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:04 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:44 pm Wowza, gotta say... after that St. Johns drubbing I didn't know what was going to happen here... but holy moly that was something else. I'm just in shock. From Valley team to Big East champs.

That said, Z's injury is a huggggeeeeeeeeeeeee worry. I hope it's nothing major.
I was responding to your last post about seeding and it somehow dissapeared ..

In any case, I agree with you. It seems weird to “complain” or be disappointed with a 4 seed, lol..

I’d like to think the Jays did enough in the regular season to earn a 3, regardless if they’re one and BBQ in the tournament..

But best case scenario, CU wins the conference tournament and a few upsets occur, they could “sneak” in as a 1 seed.. Wishful thinking for sure, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I wonder if you accidentally hit the delete button on the post instead of quote? If I remember right from my time as a Moderator on another forum, they're pretty close to one another. No biggy.

I think a lot depends on what happens with Zegarowski on Monday and the news. If he's fine, then I think they can handle St. Johns (providing they don't make shots blindfolded again) or Georgetown. I think Providence, if the Jays face them in the next round will be incredibly tough, they're playing pretty well recently and seem to have a team that can give the Jays fits. If they can win 2, I think they're a lock for a 3, with a possible 2.

If they win it all, I may need to take a few days off of work to nurse the hangover from the partying I will be doing.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:10 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:52 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:04 pm
MadMartin8 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:44 pm Wowza, gotta say... after that St. Johns drubbing I didn't know what was going to happen here... but holy moly that was something else. I'm just in shock. From Valley team to Big East champs.

That said, Z's injury is a huggggeeeeeeeeeeeee worry. I hope it's nothing major.
I was responding to your last post about seeding and it somehow dissapeared ..

In any case, I agree with you. It seems weird to “complain” or be disappointed with a 4 seed, lol..

I’d like to think the Jays did enough in the regular season to earn a 3, regardless if they’re one and BBQ in the tournament..

But best case scenario, CU wins the conference tournament and a few upsets occur, they could “sneak” in as a 1 seed.. Wishful thinking for sure, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
I wonder if you accidentally hit the delete button on the post instead of quote? If I remember right from my time as a Moderator on another forum, they're pretty close to one another. No biggy.

I think a lot depends on what happens with Zegarowski on Monday and the news. If he's fine, then I think they can handle St. Johns (providing they don't make shots blindfolded again) or Georgetown. I think Providence, if the Jays face them in the next round will be incredibly tough, they're playing pretty well recently and seem to have a team that can give the Jays fits. If they can win 2, I think they're a lock for a 3, with a possible 2.

If they win it all, I may need to take a few days off of work to nurse the hangover from the partying I will be doing.

It had to be what happened. Sorry about that..As long as I’ve moderated here, my eyes still play tricks on me sometimes..

I agree with your take. I think we’re in line for a probable 3 and maybe a 2. The 1 is more a dream I have

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And from that partying standpoint, no doubt. I’m off work this Thursday/Friday.. Partially due to wanting to nerd out watching Big East Tournament games, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:49 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:10 pm
It had to be what happened. Sorry about that..As long as I’ve moderated here, my eyes still play tricks on me sometimes..

I agree with your take. I think we’re in line for a probable 3 and maybe a 2. The 1 is more a dream I have ..

And from that partying standpoint, no doubt. I’m off work this Thursday/Friday.. Partially due to wanting to nerd out watching Big East Tournament games, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

No worries! It happens, I've done it before myself.

And I'm also contemplating taking off at least Thursday because that'll be a mid-day game. If they win that one, the Friday game will be in the evening. The following week (I think?), the NCAA tourney I'll be taking off either Thursday or Friday again depending on when the Jays play.

I mean *cough cough* I'll be sick those days.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:07 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:49 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:10 pm
It had to be what happened. Sorry about that..As long as I’ve moderated here, my eyes still play tricks on me sometimes..

I agree with your take. I think we’re in line for a probable 3 and maybe a 2. The 1 is more a dream I have ..

And from that partying standpoint, no doubt. I’m off work this Thursday/Friday.. Partially due to wanting to nerd out watching Big East Tournament games, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
No worries! It happens, I've done it before myself.

I mean *cough cough* I'll be sick those days.

I think if things turn the way we’d like, they’ll be a ton of us Jays fans coming down with a *cough cough* lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:15 am

Jays move up to #7 in AP....ties highest ranking ever.

lmdramos · Post by **lmdramos** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:23 pm

Finding out about Marcus Zegarowski is key. If he can't play for the Big East Tournament...fine. If he's out for the rest of the season, Creighton's season is likely over.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:17 pm

I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying the season is over.. But if Zeg’s knee injury is season ending, it would be a MAJOR blow..

No question.. Let’s keep our fingers crossed it’s minor...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:30 pm

Did not practice (was there, sat out), but was NOT on crutches as he moved to the post practice huddle.

Still no word on MRI results, although I don't think it takes this long normally for results...I think they know, but aren't sharing.

lmdramos · Post by **lmdramos** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:24 pm

Zegarowski is diagnosed with a “meniscus injury.” Likely out for Big East Tournament Thursday game (I believe likely the whole tourney). This is eerily similar to Creighton 2016-2017 season. They peeked at #7 in the rankings and Maurice Watson tore his ACL. They kind of held it together and but eventually lost in the first round of the NCAA Tournament.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:15 pm

This is quite a bit different though..

Maurice Watson tore his ACL in Mid January (January 16th) that season..pretty much at the beginning of conference play and with nearly 2 months left in the regular season. The ACL injury ended his Bluejay career.

Marcus has a meniscus injury.. This happened at the end of the season. The timing stinks, but a meniscus injury is completely different than an ACL. I think the Jays will hold Z out of the Big East tourney.. So he can be ready for the a Big Dance a week later...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:37 pm

Absolutely sucks, but after reading through a ton of comments on the Bluejay forum, it is possible for a player to play with a meniscus injury. Knowing that Z is a competitor, I don't doubt him coming back for the NCAA tournament if there is no risk of more injury. The Jays can go out and roll the dice in the Big East tournament since it isn't going to cost them much if they lose....maybe a seed but that is all.

Hopefully this team continues to fight through adversity as they have all season.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:09 am

It might be telling in that they haven't said this was a season ending injury as they have in the past with Mo, Epperson, etc. Hopefully that means there's still hope for a return for the NCAAs.

Frankly, I would like to see him sit out the conference tourney, rest up for when it really matters.

Just have to cross your fingers I suppose, but losing a star player this close to tourney time is the most Creighton-like-luck thing to happen, and it's so frustrating to see this happen each year.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:55 am

Yes, I agree very frustrating. At least this time they made it through the regular season, but just barely.

I also agree, that it would be wise to hold him out of the Big East tournament so that he hopefully will be available for the NCAA's.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:37 pm

The Ivy League cancelled their conference tournament due to the Coronavirus threat.. I wonder if the Big East would follow suit..although I think the Jays are set to fly to NY tonight...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:29 pm

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:37 pm The Ivy League cancelled their conference tournament due to the Coronavirus threat.. I wonder if the Big East would follow suit..although I think the Jays are set to fly to NY tonight...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Who got the Ivy League's auto-bid to the tourney then, did the story say?

Coyote · Post by **Coyote** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:40 pm

The regular season champs, Yale.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:05 pm

Coyote wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:40 pm The regular season champs, Yale.

Thought so.

So... that'd make Creighton the Regular Season AND Tournament Champs

Can you imagine the fans of Seton Hall after that happened? Haha!

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:09 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:05 pm
Coyote wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:40 pm The regular season champs, Yale.
Thought so.

So... that'd make Creighton the Regular Season AND Tournament Champs

Can you imagine the fans of Seton Hall after that happened? Haha!

Honestly, I’d LMAO if that happened

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:30 pm

Looks like Zegarowski is going to get his knee scoped. Means definitely out for BEast tourney. They hope to have him back for NCAAs, but it would surprise me truly.

Welp. That's a heart breaker. I swear the Jays are cursed.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:53 pm

MadMartin8 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:30 pm Looks like Zegarowski is going to get his knee scoped. Means definitely out for BEast tourney. They hope to have him back for NCAAs, but it would surprise me truly.

I tend to agree. My heart holds out hope Zeg can return for the Big Dance..but my mind says he’s done for the season..

It’s a major blow for sure. It’s a lot to ask, but native Omahan Shereef Mitchell needs to step up..There is enough leadership and unselfishness on this team to rally behind this setback and not wilt like a flower akin to what we’ve seen in previous seasons...

Ciao..LiO...Peace