Juvenile Justice Center at 18th and Harney - 8 stories

Omahacritic · Post by **Omahacritic** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:17 pm

ita wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:15 pm
skinzfan23 wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:49 pm Yes, I noticed on the WOWT webcam. Doesn't appear to be a wrecking ball or anything big though.
That's OK. My kids love looking at construction sites (which we have several near us in West O), but want to see a building torn down. I already missed the parking garage at Conagra and the Shark Club. Maybe we could catch this one.

Ita, you won’t see a wrecking ball. Mostly using a crane to pick it apart. But there is still time to get them down there. Walk around Flatiron. Walk them past the old Library building on Harney and talk about the Classical authors depicted on the exterior. (A building that needs to have something more than OHA.)

ita · Post by **ita** » Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:13 pm

Outgoing Douglas County Board members seek $10 million more for justice center

With the Douglas County Board facing turnover, two outgoing members propose to commit another $10 million to the county’s $120 million justice center project.

Board members Clare Duda and Marc Kraft will offer a resolution at Tuesday’s meeting to direct the additional money from the county’s financial reserves. They cite legal delays that subjected the project to higher inflationary costs and design changes spurred by the pandemic.

Duda and Kraft are leaving office after Tuesday’s meeting.
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Duda said part of the $10 million would fund changes related to health-related issues raised by the coronavirus, such as larger conference rooms, cubicle walls instead of open space, touchless water fountains and antimicrobial surfaces.
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Initial work on the project, which was expected to begin last year, got underway in August; the project is now scheduled to be finished by August 2023.

GrandpaaSmucker · Post by **GrandpaaSmucker** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:28 pm

ita wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:13 pm Outgoing Douglas County Board members seek $10 million more for justice center

With the Douglas County Board facing turnover, two outgoing members propose to commit another $10 million to the county’s $120 million justice center project.

Board members Clare Duda and Marc Kraft will offer a resolution at Tuesday’s meeting to direct the additional money from the county’s financial reserves. They cite legal delays that subjected the project to higher inflationary costs and design changes spurred by the pandemic.

Duda and Kraft are leaving office after Tuesday’s meeting.
...
Duda said part of the $10 million would fund changes related to health-related issues raised by the coronavirus, such as larger conference rooms, cubicle walls instead of open space, touchless water fountains and antimicrobial surfaces.
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Initial work on the project, which was expected to begin last year, got underway in August; the project is now scheduled to be finished by August 2023.

I find it absolutely corrupt and sickening that they would take that 10 million from the virus fund and spend it on a jail. This is the definition of a stimulus bill being exploited and bastardized. I am all for more stimulus but when the money is funneled into projects that have nothing to do with the virus like this it makes me against stimulus. If we can't trust the government officials to handle the money right then its best not to give them any at all.

PWL73316 · Post by **PWL73316** » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:11 pm

The CARES act had a largeish pile of money for local government relief since tourism went to essentially zero and retail receipts were down all over the country, among other problems. The money wasn't to be spent on things related to the virus itself necessarily, just to keep localities operating as normally as possible. Most cities have been impacted fiscally by the virus to a much greater degree than Omaha or Douglas County.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:39 pm

From today’s W-H-

“The Douglas County Board voted Tuesday to allocate $10 million to its controversial justice center construction project with money that came from the county government’s share of federal coronavirus relief aid.”..

The complete story link:

https://omaha.com/news/local/govt-and-p ... op-story-1

Ciao..LiO...Peace

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:50 pm

Looking at the city cam this morning and it appears they are starting assembly of the tower crane.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:03 pm

Excellent news, 2 1/2 years ago it was announced. Believe it’s only supposed to be 7 floors now. Hopefully they won’t lower it anymore. Getting rid of a surface parking lot gotta like that.

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:43 pm

Here is an updated HDR presentation with floorplans of the project.

https://www.douglascountyclerk.org/images/stories/Proposed_Juvenile_Justice_Center__Related_Items/DCJC-Arch-20201216_reducedr.pdf

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:03 pm

ita wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:43 pm Here is an updated HDR presentation with floorplans of the project.

https://www.douglascountyclerk.org/images/stories/Proposed_Juvenile_Justice_Center__Related_Items/DCJC-Arch-20201216_reducedr.pdf

Don't think that link is working.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:08 pm

Try this: https://www.douglascountyclerk.org/imag ... ducedr.pdf

That other link was hyperlinking elsewhere.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:09 pm

This is funny

Future Surface parking where there is already surface parking.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:15 pm

Maybe I am not looking at the same thing, but it says future parking "structure" not parking lot

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:50 pm

skinzfan23 wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:15 pm Maybe I am not looking at the same thing, but it says future parking "structure" not parking lot

Welp, maybe reading isnt my strong point.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:25 pm

I had mentioned this in another thread, the tower crane is currently in the air for this development. I saw a pic of it yesterday on the Omaha Reddit page..

From simply a building/development perspective, this scaled back 8 story low rise (was originally planned as 10) will do nothing for the skyline.. But once the entire development is completed, will add a decent bit of density in the DT core. Which is always a plus...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:43 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:25 pm I had mentioned this in another thread, the tower crane is currently in the air for this development. I saw a pic of it yesterday on the Omaha Reddit page..

From simply a building/development perspective, this scaled back 8 story low rise (was originally planned as 10) will do nothing for the skyline.. But once the entire development is completed, will add a decent bit of density in the DT core. Which is always a plus...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Yeah all we're getting is a little density on the south end of the core. It'll look nice. But nothing groundbreaking.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:48 pm

I’m thinking it should be about as tall as the OPPD building directly to the east. It will help with density and might be visible in the skyline from the near southside of the downtown area. It would need to be at least 10 or 11 floors to have a more substantial impact on the skyline. Wish they could of kept it at 10. But it’s construction in Omaha’s core so I’m not complaining.

ita · Post by **ita** » Tue Mar 09, 2021 3:50 am

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 ... &source=48

Here's an update from facebook.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:30 am

Well, it is exciting to see tower cranes downtown once again..Even if it’s for a low rise structure such as this...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

OmahaFan · Post by **OmahaFan** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:38 pm

Huh it got approved

OmahaFan · Post by **OmahaFan** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:40 pm

It’s quite sad Douglas county doesn’t have the balls to build the 11 story building

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:22 pm

I guess you’d have to consider floor-to-floor height and number of floors vs. the actual overall building height comparison between the previous design and the current one. Without looking myself, it could be that the older design had more floors with less height between floors. In other words, it’s possible an 8-story building with greater height between floors could have similar or greater height than a 11 story building. I couldn’t get the HDR elevation views to load, so there’s no way to compare the overall heights.

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:32 pm

Going back to my first post when I started this thread in June/2018.. I referenced the proposed rendering at the time was “not a mind blowing highrise”..

Now fast forward to 3 years later and construction for the building is underway.. It remains nothing mind blowing. But, simply, a density adding 8 story low rise. The height will likely remain the same as the original proposal (hard to tell the difference)..Again, this was never going to be a skyline enhancing development from the jump..

Nice to see a tower crane downtown again though...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

GetUrban · Post by **GetUrban** » Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:40 pm

I agree it will be nice to increase the density in the area, whether it’s 8-story, 9,10, or 11. I don’t think it was a lack of “balls” that set the height, but it was more likely the actual program needs of the Justice Center that determined the size and number of floors needed and possibly the efficiency and cost.

ita · Post by **ita** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:15 pm

Since this is a public project, there is a lot of information on the County website. Here's a project update for March:

https://www.douglascountyclerk.org/imag ... Keiwit.pdf

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 5:36 pm

Thanks for the update. According to the update, the tower is listed as 8 stories.

Athomsfere · Post by **Athomsfere** » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:08 pm

ita wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:15 pm Since this is a public project, there is a lot of information on the County website. Here's a project update for March:

https://www.douglascountyclerk.org/imag ... Keiwit.pdf

In summary:
3 buildings.

Judicial Tower
Eight Stories

1723 Building
Four Stories

Youth Center
Four Stories

A single 16 story building would have been a game changer. But still, the infill is nice.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri Mar 26, 2021 9:12 pm

Steel is currently going up.

Cermak · Post by **Cermak** » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:39 am

I’m excited about this project and hope it has a nice impact on the surrounding area and helps dense up this part of downtown a little more. I remember when it was announced during the summer of 2018, seems like a long time ago.

nebraska · Post by **nebraska** » Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:41 pm

stadsborgare · Post by **stadsborgare** » Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:30 pm

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:58 am

The low rise is making good progress..

Thank you both for the pic updates

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:12 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:58 am The low rise is making good progress..

Thank you both for the pic updates ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Haven't been down in a few weeks, are both structures going vertical simultaneously?

ita · Post by **ita** » Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:52 pm

I saw this crane yesterday driving by downtown. It seems like it has been a while since I've noticed one in the CBD. It felt good, haha!

jjjjhskr · Post by **jjjjhskr** » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:50 pm

ita wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:52 pm I saw this crane yesterday driving by downtown. It seems like it has been a while since I've noticed one in the CBD. It felt good, haha!

While I know it’s been developing (pun intended) for a while
It sure seems like all of a sudden there’s a lot going on in the central, downtown and riverfront areas of Omaha. It sure if good to see.

Athomsfere · Post by **Athomsfere** » Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:05 pm

stadsborgare wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:30 pm

If we had to guess:

It looks like 15 ft floors. So 120ft building without whatever cap-work gets done?

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:55 am

Athomsfere wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:05 pm
stadsborgare wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:30 pm
If we had to guess:

It looks like 15 ft floors. So 120ft building without whatever cap-work gets done?

That sounds about right to me...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 am

Louie wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:12 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:58 am The low rise is making good progress..

Thank you both for the pic updates ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
Haven't been down in a few weeks, are both structures going vertical simultaneously?

I’m going to be downtown Saturday afternoon.. I’m going to take a drive by and check that out...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:51 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 am
I’m going to be downtown Saturday afternoon.. I’m going to take a drive by and check that out...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Kewl

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:56 am

Louie wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:51 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 am
I’m going to be downtown Saturday afternoon.. I’m going to take a drive by and check that out...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
Kewl

...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Post by **Omaha Cowboy** » Sun Apr 18, 2021 2:02 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:56 am
Louie wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:12 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:58 am The low rise is making good progress..

Thank you both for the pic updates ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace
Haven't been down in a few weeks, are both structures going vertical simultaneously?
I’m going to be downtown Saturday afternoon.. I’m going to take a drive by and check that out...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Just as follow up to this, I drove by today and viewed the site- the only thing rising right now is the main Justice Center structure..

Which, for being only an 8 story low-rise, will probably reach 120 feet in height..It will be an excellent density filler, but may also actually have an impact on the skyline looking east from 480, 20th, 16th streets into the downtown area..nothing dramatic mind you, but noticeable..Sort of like the Hyatt Place hotel in the Old Market...

Ciao..LiO...Peace