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Brad wrote:Mayor just said on a Grow Omaha that they want to rebuild the Library in the same spot, but with new development around it. It would be a branch and not the “main” library.
Anyone know of any other city where the Main Library isn't downtown? Please, I am willing to learn.

I wouldn't mind them brining in a world renowned architect and building something to actually look at. For example, Seattle and Minneapolis. I know there are more.

Plus, I think adding some sort of Gallery to the building might actually increase traffic and increase our Exhibition space.
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From the 2019 budget, $ 20 million - replace existing downtown library.

I don't think this ends up at the Civic Auditorium site anymore. I think it ends up a block east on the southern part of the block bounded by 13th, 14th, Douglas and Farnam as part of the park remodel.

EDIT: Sorry it isn't explicitly in the budget, its in the Capital Improvement Plan for 2020/2021.
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iamjacobm wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:36 pm From the 2019 budget, $ 20 million - replace existing downtown library.

I don't think this ends up at the Civic Auditorium site anymore. I think it ends up a block east on the southern part of the block bounded by 13th, 14th, Douglas and Farnam as part of the park remodel.
Smaller footprint, perhaps?
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Louie wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:38 pm
iamjacobm wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:36 pm From the 2019 budget, $ 20 million - replace existing downtown library.

I don't think this ends up at the Civic Auditorium site anymore. I think it ends up a block east on the southern part of the block bounded by 13th, 14th, Douglas and Farnam as part of the park remodel.
Smaller footprint, perhaps?
Yes. This is entirely speculating, but the parks proposal shows a modestly sized "Civic" structure on that site. The Auditorium site has no developer and no plan, I can't see it over there anymore. The parks are moving full steam ahead and fit a timeline with the budget better IMO. I think that location is probably better anyways.
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I believe previous comments from the mayor indicated downsizing the DT library would be a part of the process and moving some of the artifacts collections elsewhere.

I think it ends up there, being a smaller library with more of a Do Space vibe and having maybe a cafe type space included.
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Good. That's a relief.
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That new tall building looks like Des Moines' new planned residential tower -- in a way. I think I'm happy about that. But, I'm sorry... The red twins shouldn't be blocked, imo. That's a major (and commissioned, I might add) architectural statement in Omaha, now a trademark, at the end of that long, narrow park. Where's the respect? It's even acknowledged on Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_Plaza
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Not to be rude but id gladly trade in views of the red twins for a new tower. Not that the twins are ugly I just think it shows that Omaha is entering a new era of urban development soon.
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I agree. I'd love a tower there.

I also think we should do something like this for our Main Library, but we need to keep it downtown.

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mcarch wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:12 pm I agree. I'd love a tower there.

I also think we should do something like this for our Main Library, but we need to keep it downtown.

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‘Bear Witness’
Four artists close Michael Phipps Gallery advocating for community change, growth and identity


The Michael Phipps Gallery of the W. Dale Clark Library will bow out gracefully and purposefully this July with its final exhibit as the main branch awaits its demo and new digs once the dust finally settles. To commemorate this event four artists will “Bear Witness” to the MPG’s considerable effort to help bring art and community together in the Metro.

Ally Karsyn, Daniel Castaneda, Jacqueline Washington and Jair Rodriguez combine in multi-disciplinary exhibition that offers work with themes that are personal, social and often political as they advocate for change, growth and identity in an urban and multicultural environment. “Bear Witness” opens July 8 with a reception at 4 p.m. and closes August 31.

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Jacqueline Washington, Heard, 2020, alcohol markers on paper.

Daniel Castaneda, aka Sedra D’, connects motion and memory, culture and knowledge in his work, standing on firm roots and Indigenous heritage. Jacqueline Washington took inspiration from a historic moment to call for justice and change. Jair Rodriguez paints for the power of story to connect across generations, reflecting community experiences in community spaces. Ally Karsyn brings a transformative, interactive project inviting viewers to plant a hope for future growth and aspiration.

Together, these artists combine into a perfect send-off for a community art space. Hopefully, the MPG will rise again in its new space as it continues its tradition of exhibiting especially emerging and independent artists committed to the urban art scene. “Bear Witness,” the final exhibit at the W. Dale Clark Library at its current address downtown will be open from July 8 – August 31, with a reception at 4 p.m. this Friday.

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W. Dale Clark library hosting final farewell before moving to temporary location


It's always hard to say goodbye. But after serving the Omaha community for 45 years it's time to say goodbye to the W. Dale Clark Library. “We are inviting everyone in our community to come in and say farewell to this space, we know this library has been around for 45 years. People have made good memories here, they have enjoyed the space and learned a lot in this space,” said Emily Getzschman, Marketing and Media relations manager for Omaha Public Libraries.

On Saturday, the W. Dale Clark library is hosting its final farewell before the library moves into a temporary location at 1410 Howard and it will be a day filled with fun activities for kids and their parents, including performances from Nebraska state poet Matt Mason and local artist Jessica Hanson.
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Special memories and stories: Omaha community says farewell to the W Dale Clark Library


(KMTV) — Saturday’s farewell ceremony at the W Dale Clark Library marked the final chapter of a story that started back in the 1970s when the library first opened in downtown Omaha. Mike Frank, a new student at Creighton University at the time said his favorite memory of the library didn't have much to do with books. "The special memory for me would have been just out to the east where they hand out food sometimes," Frank said. "I would participate in pieces of that." Former youth services librarian Mary Mollner, remembers bringing stories to life for countless kids during her time at the library. She said the work left a big impact on them. Kenny and Trish Champoux, are a married couple who first met at the library seven years ago during a speed dating event. "We were each other’s last date of the evening," Trish Champoux said. "Thirty interviews, she was the last one," Kenny Champoux said. "The best one of them all." Marketing manager Emily Getzschman said the library is a place, that's been so many things to so many different people. Hosting events such as culinary conferences, poetry bashes and writing contests. Many are sad to see the library go, even if they understand why. "It’s heartbreaking," Trish Champoux said. "I also understand that it's part of progress and so things change." The library will begin moving to its new temporary location at 11th and Howard later this month.
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Special memories and stories: Omaha community says farewell to the W Dale Clark Library

The community gathered at the W Dale Clark Library one last time on Saturday to share some of their favorite memories of the space before its closure later in the month.
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Good riddance. That building was horrendous and just plain ugly. Looked more like a prison than a inviting place to read. Not to mention all the homeless people who always were around the building bugging people for money. You know what they use that money for? It ain’t for food I’ll tell you that!
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OmahaFan wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:46 am Good riddance. That building was horrendous and just plain ugly. Looked more like a prison than a inviting place to read. Not to mention all the homeless people who always were around the building bugging people for money. You know what they use that money for? It ain’t for food I’ll tell you that!
I didn't mind the library building, that style of architecture was common in the mid to late 70's. But having a 40+ story building replace it is a no brainer. Can't wait for the steel to start rising next year.
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OmahaFan wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:46 am Good riddance. That building was horrendous and just plain ugly. Looked more like a prison than a inviting place to read. Not to mention all the homeless people who always were around the building bugging people for money. You know what they use that money for? It ain’t for food I’ll tell you that!
I disagree. Brutalism was/ is almost always at least a little ugly. But I thought this was a better example than average, and had a place in Omaha. At least until something more vital came along. I would have loved to see it for another 50 years, and it get a nod as one of the better examples of Brutalism when more of the worst examples are gone.

But, MoO and a new headquarters is an even bigger deal, and I'm happy for the exchange.
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Moving the library doesn't change the homeless problem. I'm curious if many will move to the new library or if the Siena Francis keeps the majority downtown.
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I will be honest, I really won't miss this building. Spent a decent amount of time going there in the early 80's while at Central. Liked some of the openness inside but boxy cement just doesn't do it for me.
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Downtown Omaha library officially closes; interim location ready to open


Less than a year after the announcement was made that the downtown Omaha library would be demolished and replaced, the W. Dale Clark branch has officially closed its doors. “All the emotions,” said Rachel Steiner, Omaha Public Library assistant director. “There’s happiness that we’re transitioning and moving on to our future plans, there’s sadness because, especially our patrons that have gone maybe only to Dale Clark their whole lives, or have childhood memories of it are definitely feeling that and reminiscing.” The building, built in the 1970s, is set to be torn down by the end of the year. Eventually, a skyscraper built by Mutual of Omaha will replace it. “We really like this library, too, because of where it is,” says 11-year-old Malia Rogel-Mendoza.

Monday, the new interim downtown library branch will open at 14th and Howard streets. The one-room space is nothing compared to the several thousand square foot W. Dale Clark building. Steiner said patience will be the key for the next six months.
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Timeline for demolition of Omaha's W. Dale Clark Library

A press release from Omaha Mayor Jean Stothert's office outlines the W. Dale Clark Library's final days
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Omaha's downtown library demolition could cost more than approved

Demolition for Omaha's downtown library could cost nearly $400,000 more than initially approved by the city council, and more than three companies initially proposed to spend on the project.
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I’m just so happy it’s finally going to be gone. Even as a kid I absolutely hated how it looked (no hate to people who like it I can see why it’s also liked)
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Well how long will the process of paying for the demo cost now? The extra fee as I understand it brings the winning bid now more expensive than at least one of the other bidding contractors. Will this require a rebid?
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PotatoeEatsFish wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 7:17 am I’m just so happy it’s finally going to be gone. Even as a kid I absolutely hated how it looked (no hate to people who like it I can see why it’s also liked)
It sure seems to me that the cost of this library move keeps going up. They have had all the unknown problems at the site they are relocating to and now this added cost

I do have a question on this though. If you had a bid to take down a building knowing a new building was going in there why wouldn’t the original request for demo include “ piling removal, and the removal and haul away of driveways and façade walls around the perimeter of the library”

https://omaha.com/news/local/govt-and-p ... ea5a0.html

“As for the additional services requested by the city, a change order submitted to the council listed fees related to material testing services, piling removal, and the removal and haul away of driveways and façade walls around the perimeter of the library.”
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nativeomahan wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 6:35 pm Well how long will the process of paying for the demo cost now? The extra fee as I understand it brings the winning bid now more expensive than at least one of the other bidding contractors. Will this require a rebid?
The overall cost now will be around $1.1 million for the demolition..

At least one of the original 4 bids quoted a higher total cost estimate than that..I expect a 7-0 or 6-1 City Council approval vote for the additional cost $$ when they meet on the issue this Tuesday. The demo of the W Dale Clark is imminent…

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There are barricades up around it. I assumed it was all already ready to go🤷
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thenewguy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:16 am There are barricades up around it. I assumed it was all already ready to go🤷
It’s going to happen. The city council just needs to vote and approve the added cost, which they will this coming Tuesday…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:05 pm I expect a 7-0 or 6-1 City Council approval vote for the additional cost $$ when they meet on the issue this Tuesday. The demo of the W Dale Clark is imminent…
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As expected. From the W-H-

“The company contracted to demolish the W. Dale Clark Library will receive an additional payment of nearly $400,000 — the latest in a series of costs incurred by the city for the move and demolition of Omaha's main library.

In June, the City Council selected Cox Contracting Co., based in Council Bluffs, to handle demolition of the library at 14th and Douglas Streets. Demotion of the W. Dale Clark will clear the site for a new Mutual of Omaha skyscraper.

The additional services were approved by City Council members six to one.”..

The complete W-H story link:

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Omaha City Council approves extra funding for library demolition

The mayor's office asked for almost $400,000 more in funding for the company doing the demolition work.
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W. Dale Clark's demolition will cost the city more than originally planned

The W. Dale Clark's demolition will cost the city more than originally planned after additional demolition needs were identified by Mutual of Omaha.
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W. Dale Clark's demolition will cost the city more than originally planned


The W. Dale Clark library is less than a week away from being demolished. But a last-minute addition to the demolition order is sending the price way up just before the building is set to come down. “We did not know what the design was going to be of the building that is going up,” said Jacquelyn Morrison with the Mayor’s office. Mutual of Omaha has informed the city that they need to perform additional demolition, including removing a retaining wall, driveways and some concrete pylons before the plot of land where the Dale Clark resides is ready for construction of their new skyscraper. City officials say the demolition contract was signed before they saw a final plan from Mutual of Omaha so they would have had no way of knowing the additional demolition was necessary. The price tag for the demolition is around $700,000 and the new demo will add $392,897.20 to that cost.

It's an expensive miscalculation and one that the city is contractually obligated to pay. “To deny this work, if we deny this change order, we still have to complete the work. If we don’t complete the work we are still in violation of the agreement. So then they would probably do the work themselves, rebid it, and then charge the city. Not only would we get charged for that work but probably legal fees and penalties as well for violating that agreement,” said Councilwoman Aimee melton.
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OPINION: As Library Demolition Nears,
Old Questions About Public-Private Partnerships Resurface

Omaha’s “Libary Fiasco” ignites new and old debates.


On Aug. 28, the W. Dale Clark library closed its doors for the last time, leaving Omaha without a downtown, “main branch.” Sometime this October pricey demolition work will begin. Soon afterward, Mutual of Omaha’s new skyscraper headquarters will rise, eventually shading the newly renovated Gene Leahy Mall in its verticality.

Although there had been rumblings about closing W. Dale Clark for more than 10 years — when the design for the building itself was completed in 1974 then-library director Frank E. Gibson said the building would only “be good enough for 20 years” — it seems like just yesterday those rumblings became reality.

A year ago, the World-Herald reported W. Dale Clark would likely close and local philanthropic group Heritage Services would be involved in creating a new main library in central Omaha. In the same month, @Save_OPL, the still-anonymous twitter account feeding concerned Omahans inside information about the city’s library business, first posted a thread accusing the city of working with Heritage Services to privatize Omaha’s public library system.

Now, not only is W. Dale Clark closed, but the entire library situation has devolved into what has been colorfully termed the “library fiasco.” First there were the (ongoing) transparency concerns regarding Mutual of Omaha’s deal with the city to acquire the W. Dale Clark site. Then there were the city’s haphazard plans for accommodating the library while plans for the system were in flux. Library administration, kicked out of W. Dale and awaiting an eventual move to the new main library in the 72nd and Dodge area, is for now moving into an abandoned ShopKo building in an obscure south-central part of the city best known for its cemeteries. Meanwhile, the downtown area received a makeshift facility, hastily arranged after the initial 1401 Jones site was determined to have more structural damage than anticipated, pushing that move-in date back to March 2023.

It is maddening, enough to make one lose all hope in our government. Even more concerning, however, is the creation of a public-private advisory committee authorized to make formal recommendations on both the new main central library and the public library system as a whole. This advisory committee, which will consist of library officials, city officials, and representatives affiliated with the Heritage-backed DoSpace, a private technology library in the old Borders on 72nd and Dodge Streets, brings up fears that @Save_OPL’s warnings about privatization may not be far off. For while city and Heritage officials have vehemently denied the library is being privatized – Mayor Stothert, for her part, insisted on Sept. 22, 2021, that “Heritage has no – no – plan whatsoever to even push for privatization of our libraries” – it is difficult for me to see this new committee as anything other than a first step toward anything else.

Because this advisory committee looks an awful lot like the library-version of the Metropolitan Entertainment and Convention Authority, aka MECA, the semi-independent, unelected board that manages the downtown arena, baseball stadium, and the three parks (including the Gene Leahy Mall) that make up the “RiverFront” development.

MECA has its origins in the Metropolitan Omaha Convention/Sports and Entertainment Authority, an 11-member private citizens group created in 1997 with support from both the city of Omaha and the Greater Omaha Chamber of Commerce to discuss the best path forward on a potential convention center/arena. Nicknamed the “Sokol Commission” after its president, David Sokol, then-chief executive of CalEnergy Inc., and consisting primarily of influential, white businesspersons, the commission put forth a plan for a $275 million center that would be partly financed through private funds and managed by an unelected, semi-autonomous board of governors.

In 1999, the World-Herald described Sokol’s viewpoint, writing “the switch to a privately directed planning effort would lend professional business expertise, give potential donors greater assurance of a successful outcome and cut through government bureaucracy.”

“This isn’t an issue of distrust (of city government),” Sokol said to the paper.

But why go the private route? As former city officials and current University of Nebraska at Omaha professors Paul Landow and Carol Ebdon note in their 2012 study of Omaha’s public-private partnerships, Omaha already had experience managing stadiums with the Civic Auditorium and Rosenblatt; it is possible, then, that Omaha could have managed the new downtown arena itself, without the help of a new, unelected authority.

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So when are they going to start tearing this thing down?
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Stan wrote: Thu Oct 06, 2022 3:00 pm So when are they going to start tearing this thing down?
Demolition has begun - pic of bulldozer driving through the west entrance
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They're going to need a bigger bulldozer.
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This might be overkill for W. Dale Clark, but:

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The are using the smaller tractors to clear-out the interior. They push it all in the moat and where it is loaded. They will recycle the aluminum studs that were used for framing. The moat works great for doing this demo. Once the interior is cleared you'll see bigger machinery. All the steel framing will be reclaimed.
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Glad to see this moving along. While the library was disliked by many it served the city well for years . I will miss it in a way. But Brutalist Architecture was often unpopular and controversial.
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Does anyone know of a webcam in the area of the library demolition?