The Crossroads (72 & Dodge)

[NEDodger]

Fire in the little part still standing next to target.

Finally something happening at Crossroads….

[omaha79]

I always wondered why they kept that little piece of the mall. I'm assuming some physical systems that supply power to either Target or the garage are there? Just seemed odd that little slice of the mall was left.

[omaha79]

Now, certainly, this will set the Crossroads project behind. It was so close to getting going. The developer, in light of this hardship, will now certainly need more TIF money and probably some additional commitment from the city if this is ever going to get off the ground. We should all be sensitive in this time as the developer took a big hit today.

Is there some insurance claim to be filed with this fire? seems suspicious.

[Brad]

Building was unsecured with evidence of homeless living inside.

[almighty_tuna]

I believe OFD got called out again for a flare-up.

[remline]

The developer, in light of this hardship, will now certainly need more TIF money and probably some additional commitment from the city if this is ever going to get off the ground.

This would also be an appropriate time to apply for Federal grants to assist the project.

[nativeomahan]

Well on one hand it’s nice to see that people have finally moved in to live on this property.

[djc311]

Well on one hand it’s nice to see that people have finally moved in to live on this property.

LOLOLOLOL

[Brad]

There’s a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 AM in the mayors office with the vice president of the Woodbury corporation to give an update on the crossroads project.

[omahahawk]

Thank you for letting us know.

[Bob from Omaha]

There’s a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 AM in the mayors office with the vice president of the Woodbury corporation to give an update on the crossroads project.

Wait for it.........

60-90 days

[djc311]

There’s a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 AM in the mayors office with the vice president of the Woodbury corporation to give an update on the crossroads project.

Wait for it.........

60-90 days

60-90 days for work to start? Or, 60-90 days for the next update?

This thing is a dud. I hope one day in the next decade (might take longer than that), we can all look at it and say "wow, Crossroads turned out great". I'm guessing at least two Mega Savers on the property... one in each corner.

[Doctor Fate]

There’s a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 AM in the mayors office with the vice president of the Woodbury corporation to give an update on the crossroads project.

Can we watch this somewhere?

[Bob from Omaha]

There’s a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 AM in the mayors office with the vice president of the Woodbury corporation to give an update on the crossroads project.

Wait for it.........

60-90 days

60-90 days for work to start? Or, 60-90 days for the next update?

This thing is a dud. I hope one day in the next decade (might take longer than that), we can all look at it and say "wow, Crossroads turned out great". I'm guessing at least two Mega Savers on the property... one in each corner.

The only thing I know for sure is 60-90 days

[Brad]

There’s a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 AM in the mayors office with the vice president of the Woodbury corporation to give an update on the crossroads project.

Can we watch this somewhere?

Jeff Beals from Grow Omaha is at the press conference. All I have heard so far is that Woodbury takes ownership tomorrow (12/18/2024). Construction still planning to start in April.

[djc311]

There’s a press conference tomorrow morning at 11 AM in the mayors office with the vice president of the Woodbury corporation to give an update on the crossroads project.

Can we watch this somewhere?

Jeff Beals from Grow Omaha is at the press conference. All I have heard so far is that Woodbury takes ownership tomorrow (12/18/2024). Construction still planning to start in April.

Is the fire pit included in the transfer of ownership?

[Brad]

Construction will begin on Crossroads property in a few months, Omaha Mayor Jean Stothert says

https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-cros ... y/63215302

Their plan is a redesigned, much higher-value development that is now approximately $900 million.

The first phase of the project will include a 92,000-square-foot entertainment complex and a 40,000-square-foot center green.

[djc311]

Construction will begin on Crossroads property in a few months, Omaha Mayor Jean Stothert says

https://www.ketv.com/article/omaha-cros ... y/63215302

Their plan is a redesigned, much higher-value development that is now approximately $900 million.

The first phase of the project will include a 92,000-square-foot entertainment complex and a 40,000-square-foot center green.

Will be nice to see accountability here - I'm sure many would agree that should have been a part of the plan years ago.

Wonder what Mike McDonnell's magic solution is as I'm guessing he doesn't agree with anything that's developing on that property.

[Doctor Fate]

[nebport5]

During the press conference they mentioned Target is going to redo their parking lot and add an Ulta Store starting in January. Interesting to note this was brought up after questions about downtown grocery. Perhaps a full blown Super Target with expanded grocery is on the horizon?

[nebugeater]

During the press conference they mentioned Target is going to redo their parking lot and add an Ulta Store starting in January. Interesting to note this was brought up after questions about downtown grocery. Perhaps a full blown Super Target with expanded grocery is on the horizon?

Hasn't Target stopped building Super Target's Seem to remember that as an anouncement a year or so ago

[nebport5]

During the press conference they mentioned Target is going to redo their parking lot and add an Ulta Store starting in January. Interesting to note this was brought up after questions about downtown grocery. Perhaps a full blown Super Target with expanded grocery is on the horizon?

Hasn't Target stopped building Super Target's Seem to remember that as an anouncement a year or so ago

I didn't realize but that's correct. Apparently they've stopped using the term but still have larger stores with more offerings which would I imagine would be the idea here.

edit: This particular store desperately needs more checkout lanes.

[Padre]

During the press conference they mentioned Target is going to redo their parking lot and add an Ulta Store starting in January. Interesting to note this was brought up after questions about downtown grocery. Perhaps a full blown Super Target with expanded grocery is on the horizon?

Hasn't Target stopped building Super Target's Seem to remember that as an anouncement a year or so ago

It sounds like right now Target is increasing their remodels by about 20,000 feet, and adding some features.

https://www.supermarketnews.com/new-sto ... ore-design

[ita]

I don't know who the possible tenants are, but for the entertainment center, I am guessing a K1 indoor go-kart facility.

[iamjacobm]

Images from the WOWT article https://www.wowt.com/2024/12/17/omaha-m ... nt-nearby/

This is the site plan with some more detail. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... e-maps-12/

[skinzfan23]

Be glad to see some movement here, but still doesn't appear to be too much height. Doesn't have to be anything super tall, but it would be nice to see some 7-10 story buildings. The article mentions that when demolition of the mall occurred, the est total of re-development was only $200 Million, which is nowhere near correct. Even all the way back in 2014, the development had a nearly $400 Million price tag. Maybe they were only referring to the first phase, which was still est to be around $233-275 Million. And then, back in March this year the total cost was bumped up to $861 Million.

[Greg S]

I don't know who the possible tenants are, but for the entertainment center, I am guessing a K1 indoor go-kart facility.

I was thinking Main Event. They have been in KC for a while now:

https://www.mainevent.com/

[ita]

I don't know who the possible tenants are, but for the entertainment center, I am guessing a K1 indoor go-kart facility.

I was thinking Main Event. They have been in KC for a while now:

https://www.mainevent.com/

I was thinking a mixed entertainment center, but when I looked at square footage of something like Round One in Lincoln, it was only 50k square feet. Main Event in KC is about the same. They said the Crossroads site is 90k. While it would be a bigger one, K1 could fill that space. I didn't think a something with bowling would go there with West Lanes just down the street.

[Dusty]

I don't know who the possible tenants are, but for the entertainment center, I am guessing a K1 indoor go-kart facility.

I was thinking Main Event. They have been in KC for a while now:

https://www.mainevent.com/

I was thinking a mixed entertainment center, but when I looked at square footage of something like Round One in Lincoln, it was only 50k square feet. Main Event in KC is about the same. They said the Crossroads site is 90k. While it would be a bigger one, K1 could fill that space. I didn't think a something with bowling would go there with West Lanes just down the street.

If you look at the renderings, it shows a sign for cinema. We don't need another movie theater since Aksarben has one down the road. We don't really need bowling since West Lanes is across the street. Hopefully, they do their research and bring in different concepts.

I hope they take an action/adventure park direction. That could be: indoor karting; indoor high ropes/rock climbing, slide park, skating, trampoline, etc.

I would LOVE to see them bring in Slick City
https://slickcity.com/

[Dusty]

The entertainment building shows a flat roof from the renderings. Hopefully, they build it structurally strong enough to add 4-5 stories above it for apartments in the future.

[CBJason]

I would LOVE to see them bring in Slick City
https://slickcity.com/

Yes! These look like a great concept! Their website shows cities that have a franchisee set up and I think Omaha has one lined up already.

Edit: yes their website does say Omaha has a franchise that’s been awarded.

[Greg S]

I don't know who the possible tenants are, but for the entertainment center, I am guessing a K1 indoor go-kart facility.

I was thinking Main Event. They have been in KC for a while now:

https://www.mainevent.com/

I was thinking a mixed entertainment center, but when I looked at square footage of something like Round One in Lincoln, it was only 50k square feet. Main Event in KC is about the same. They said the Crossroads site is 90k. While it would be a bigger one, K1 could fill that space. I didn't think a something with bowling would go there with West Lanes just down the street.

Main Events can be up to 75k sq feet. They are a lot more than just bowling alleys. I don't think West Lanes (which is just a traditional bowling alley) would be a deterrent. Main Event has arcades, laser tag, billards room, restaurant, party rooms, escape rooms, etc.

I also could see something like Smash Park or Chicken and Pickle.

[nebport5]

Do we know for sure that the 92,500 SF of entertainment in Block D is one proprietor?

[Dusty]

I would be curious to know what percentage of the 900M build is parking garages. 30%? 40%? Does the city plan on charging to park in the garages? In the long run, once the garages are paid off they become revenue generators. Meaning the money it brings in can help pay for city services and transit costs. The drawback is making people pay for parking on a new development like Crossroads. People are spoiled with their FREE parking mindset.

[nebport5]

I would be curious to know what percentage of the 900M build is parking garages. 30%? 40%? Does the city plan on charging to park in the garages? In the long run, once the garages are paid off they become revenue generators. Meaning the money it brings in can help pay for city services and transit costs. The drawback is making people pay for parking on a new development like Crossroads. People are spoiled with their FREE parking mindset.

Yes, they will be revenue generators for the city, but the first two hours are free.

[Brad]

I would be curious to know what percentage of the 900M build is parking garages. 30%? 40%? Does the city plan on charging to park in the garages? In the long run, once the garages are paid off they become revenue generators. Meaning the money it brings in can help pay for city services and transit costs. The drawback is making people pay for parking on a new development like Crossroads. People are spoiled with their FREE parking mindset.

Yes, they will be revenue generators for the city, but the first two hours are free.

I believe during the press conference they also said there would be parking meters in the Crossroads?

[nebport5]

I would be curious to know what percentage of the 900M build is parking garages. 30%? 40%? Does the city plan on charging to park in the garages? In the long run, once the garages are paid off they become revenue generators. Meaning the money it brings in can help pay for city services and transit costs. The drawback is making people pay for parking on a new development like Crossroads. People are spoiled with their FREE parking mindset.

Yes, they will be revenue generators for the city, but the first two hours are free.

I believe during the press conference they also said there would be parking meters in the Crossroads?

I remember hearing that too.

[BRoss]

Found this site plan on Grow Omaha's website:

Crossroads-site-plan-12.17.24-800w.jpg

https://growomaha.com/new-developer-fin ... this-week/

[Dusty]

I would be curious to know what percentage of the 900M build is parking garages. 30%? 40%? Does the city plan on charging to park in the garages? In the long run, once the garages are paid off they become revenue generators. Meaning the money it brings in can help pay for city services and transit costs. The drawback is making people pay for parking on a new development like Crossroads. People are spoiled with their FREE parking mindset.

Yes, they will be revenue generators for the city, but the first two hours are free.

I would think most people would do their errands in less than 2 hours. This means most people are not paying. Did they announce this was the plan?

I noticed all the on-street parking. It's very excessive considering all the garage stalls they will have. I'm guessing they are doing parking meters as convenience parking and to persuade people to park in the garages. This is very much a car-centric mindset to parking. If you want people to park in the garages, then don't give them the option of on-street parking. 

[nebport5]

I would be curious to know what percentage of the 900M build is parking garages. 30%? 40%? Does the city plan on charging to park in the garages? In the long run, once the garages are paid off they become revenue generators. Meaning the money it brings in can help pay for city services and transit costs. The drawback is making people pay for parking on a new development like Crossroads. People are spoiled with their FREE parking mindset.

Yes, they will be revenue generators for the city, but the first two hours are free.

I would think most people would do their errands in less than 2 hours. This means most people are not paying. Did they announce this was the plan?

I noticed all the on-street parking. It's very excessive considering all the garage stalls they will have. I'm guessing they are doing parking meters as convenience parking and to persuade people to park in the garages. This is very much a car-centric mindset to parking. If you want people to park in the garages, then don't give them the option of on-street parking. 

If you listen to the press conference Jeff Woodbury talked about the parking and having two hours free. I'd suspect you're probably right about the meters vs garage rates. I'd bet the are some numbers out there that support this model from a business /revenue standpoint. I'd trust Woodbury and the city knows what they're doing here. IIRC, years ago Denver's Cherry Creek Mall used to not charge the first two hours. I'd generally consider myself an in and out under two hours person but recall a number of times where I ended up being there past two.

As for as being a car-centric development, I don't care to beat a dead horse over what's previously been discussed in this thread. Suffice to say taking away street parking isn't going to suddenly make this a less car-centric city. You also need significant mass transit options to make that a realistic consideration. Take the incremental win of underground parking and the huge reduction of surface lots from previous proposals. And people are already going to throw a shatfit over having to pay for parking in a suburban setting.

Also consider the amount of people biatching about a lack of parking downtown. Meanwhile, on a typical Friday/Saturday night downtown there are several garages adjacent to the O.M. that rarely approach being even close to half full.