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Brad wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:41 pm
WorldStreet wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 5:20 pm Today I took advantage of the warm sunny weather to take some photos from above... There's a lot of construction going on today in the heart of downtown.

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Nice! You get anything over closer to mutual?
Thanks! I only recorded video closer to Mutual, which I plan to edit this weekend and post. When I edit, I could snap of shot of the video and post the photo here.
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Cermak wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 6:21 am
WorldStreet wrote: Wed Jan 07, 2026 5:20 pm Today I took advantage of the warm sunny weather to take some photos from above... There's a lot of construction going on today in the heart of downtown.

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Excellent photos thanks. The tower is nearing completion, It has been 4 years ago almost exactly that Mutual announced it.
Thanks! Seems like the tower really took off during the past 12 months. Sometime in 2026, we'll probably get our first glimpse of how the tower will be lit up at night.
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Based on the photo of the model Louie posted on the previous page, I'm guessing the final height will be something like this? You all agree?
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Brad wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:18 am Based on the photo of the model Louie posted on the previous page, I'm guessing the final height will be something like this? You all agree?

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Mutual of Nashville :lol:
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ita wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:31 am
Brad wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:18 am Based on the photo of the model Louie posted on the previous page, I'm guessing the final height will be something like this? You all agree?

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arch_RP_planner wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:44 am Image

Mutual of Nashville :lol:
LOL! I see both.

Seriously though, I was drawing a cross section for reference to try and scale off that model.
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It's an accurate representation from what I see! I assume the crown is at or slightly above the height of the final steel box atop the core, so what we see now is its final height, give or take a few more feet!
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arch_RP_planner wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:51 am It's an accurate representation from what I see! I assume the crown is at or slightly above the height of the final steel box atop the core, so what we see now is its final height, give or take a few more feet!
I was assuming Brad's Batman to be 1 floor off. The way I see things, that steel box is likely the "floor" that HVAC equip will sit on. They'll want that enclosed in the "Bat Ears" for a clean look. So the outside points would end up one floor higher than Brad's illustration.

But I'm no architect, just trying to visualize it..
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Brad wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:18 am Based on the photo of the model Louie posted on the previous page, I'm guessing the final height will be something like this? You all agree?

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Is that some MS Paint work right there?
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Ben wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:40 pm
arch_RP_planner wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:51 am It's an accurate representation from what I see! I assume the crown is at or slightly above the height of the final steel box atop the core, so what we see now is its final height, give or take a few more feet!
I was assuming Brad's Batman to be 1 floor off. The way I see things, that steel box is likely the "floor" that HVAC equip will sit on. They'll want that enclosed in the "Bat Ears" for a clean look. So the outside points would end up one floor higher than Brad's illustration.

But I'm no architect, just trying to visualize it..
Typically, on most commercial projects, screening for HVAC isn't a full level above, but considering we are discussing skyscrapers, the roof for Mutual wouldn't be visible anywhere but the rooftop of FNBO, if even... Since Mutual's crown is still structural, the final height they decided on could be within a general range. My guess would say the crown will extend 10-20' above the HVAC level, and if I remember correctly, the office floorplates are 17' apart, so I don't think we are in disagreement there.

And since Brad's drawing is a section, his drawing also shows around 15-20' above the HVAC level, so sounds like we all have the same idea.
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Ben wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:40 pm The way I see things, that steel box is likely the "floor" that HVAC equip will sit on.
I assumed the HAVC equipment would be inside the box and not on top of it. Lots of buildings have nearly all the HVAC equipment enclosed. Also, wasn't Mutual going to have a bunch of the equipment in the parking garage too?
djc311 wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:51 pm Is that some MS Paint work right there?
It is!
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Brad wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 2:25 pm
Ben wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:40 pm The way I see things, that steel box is likely the "floor" that HVAC equip will sit on.
I assumed the HAVC equipment would be inside the box and not on top of it. Lots of buildings have nearly all the HVAC equipment enclosed. Also, wasn't Mutual going to have a bunch of the equipment in the parking garage too?
That's what I figured as well, and yes, I believe the system was split in two???
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Terrible day for taking long range skyline photos, but I did anyways.

1. North of 90th and Dodge
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2. South of 90th and Dodge
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3. 72 & West Center Road
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Still look great for photos on a blustery day.
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Does anyone know the exact elevations at ground level of First National Bank Tower vs the Mutual of Omaha Tower? I've tried looking at topographical maps etc, but I can't seem to nail down the exact figures.
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skinzfan23 wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 3:44 pm Still look great for photos on a blustery day.
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Esjael616 wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 9:50 pm Does anyone know the exact elevations at ground level of First National Bank Tower vs the Mutual of Omaha Tower? I've tried looking at topographical maps etc, but I can't seem to nail down the exact figures.
How Exact is Exact?

FNBO = 1045 (Main door to the lobby in the plaza)
Woodman = 1091 (SW Corner of the building that is level with the lobby)
Mutual = 1037 (Assumed based off the 14th street elevation)
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I’m confused Brad, do you have Woodmen and FNBO switched because there’s no way FNBO sits higher than Woodmen at ground level?
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Huskerbum wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:26 pm I’m confused Brad, do you have Woodmen and FNBO switched because there’s no way FNBO sits higher than Woodmen at ground level?
Sorry, I had a typo.

FNBO = 1045 (Main door to the lobby in the plaza)
Woodman = 1091 (SW Corner of the building that is level with the lobby)
Mutual = 1037 (Assumed based off the 14th street elevation)
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Brad wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:30 pm
Huskerbum wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:26 pm I’m confused Brad, do you have Woodmen and FNBO switched because there’s no way FNBO sits higher than Woodmen at ground level?
Sorry, I had a typo.

FNBO = 1045 (Main door to the lobby in the plaza)
Woodman = 1091 (SW Corner of the building that is level with the lobby)
Mutual = 1037 (Assumed based off the 14th street elevation)
Thanks! So the difference in height between the two towers will be 43', minus the difference in ground level elevation (8' based on your figures), so that the apparent difference in height will be 35'.
Yes, I'm that big a nerd 8)
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Esjael616 wrote: Sun Jan 11, 2026 12:04 am
Brad wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:30 pm
Huskerbum wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 11:26 pm I’m confused Brad, do you have Woodmen and FNBO switched because there’s no way FNBO sits higher than Woodmen at ground level?
Sorry, I had a typo.

FNBO = 1045 (Main door to the lobby in the plaza)
Woodman = 1091 (SW Corner of the building that is level with the lobby)
Mutual = 1037 (Assumed based off the 14th street elevation)
Thanks! So the difference in height between the two towers will be 43', minus the difference in ground level elevation (8' based on your figures), so that the apparent difference in height will be 35'.
Yes, I'm that big a nerd 8)
Yes, but we don’t yet know what the 677’ height of the tower is based on, roof height? Highest occupied floor? Crown height? Since the steel was added above the core, MoO tower is already clearly taller than FNBO tower when viewed at a distance, and there’s still likely 30’ of crown on top of that.

I said long ago that it would be taller than the core and that the crown would add 30’ or more, but nobody cared to accept it, and some disputed it.
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It should be the architectural top which would be the top of the crown… I agree with Brad and Esjael, it should appear about 35’ taller when completed.
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Brad wrote: Sat Jan 10, 2026 3:17 pm Terrible day for taking long range skyline photos, but I did anyways.

1. North of 90th and Dodge
20260110881A0322.jpg

2. South of 90th and Dodge
20260110881A0331.jpg

3. 72 & West Center Road
20260110881A0338.jpg

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With the way those long-range shots were done, it makes the original Mutual of Omaha Building look like it's 460 feet tall and way larger. If it were in Downtown Omaha and had been at that height, then our skyline would actually be beating several others.
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Nice pics Brad and Samuel :thumb:

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Samuel wrote: Sun Jan 11, 2026 5:05 pm Image
There is something about getting a third very large skyscraper that makes the skyline feel like it has achieved a critical stage.

Possibly because we have an instinct for prime numbers? I dunno, but it feels like a milestone has been achieved and a new one has opened up.
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As mentioned previously, here's a close-up of the top of Mutual from last week.
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Erik wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:30 pm
Samuel wrote: Sun Jan 11, 2026 5:05 pm Image
There is something about getting a third very large skyscraper that makes the skyline feel like it has achieved a critical stage.

Possibly because we have an instinct for prime numbers? I dunno, but it feels like a milestone has been achieved and a new one has opened up.
Two is prime. But so is five, and now I'm shooting for that.
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It may just be me but the remaining steel is going up painfully slow.
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ItsAllAboutMe wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 11:43 am It may just be me but the remaining steel is going up painfully slow.
They have to be careful standing on the other guy's shoulders when they're up that high!
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ItsAllAboutMe wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 11:43 am It may just be me but the remaining steel is going up painfully slow.
Guys don't get any time off for the holidays?
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Toto wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 12:19 pm
ItsAllAboutMe wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 11:43 am It may just be me but the remaining steel is going up painfully slow.
Guys don't get any time off for the holidays?
I have taken that into consideration and they are still slacking.
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ItsAllAboutMe wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 1:28 pm
Toto wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 12:19 pm
ItsAllAboutMe wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 11:43 am It may just be me but the remaining steel is going up painfully slow.
Guys don't get any time off for the holidays?
I have taken that into consideration and they are still slacking.
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halgy wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 7:29 am
Erik wrote: Mon Jan 12, 2026 8:30 pm
Samuel wrote: Sun Jan 11, 2026 5:05 pm Image
There is something about getting a third very large skyscraper that makes the skyline feel like it has achieved a critical stage.

Possibly because we have an instinct for prime numbers? I dunno, but it feels like a milestone has been achieved and a new one has opened up.
Two is prime. But so is five, and now I'm shooting for that.
You'll have to pardon me, im a burnout dunce from all the programming I do :lol:

That said, I've noticed a pattern where I tend to feel a completeness with prime numbers. Could be an extension to me being a dunce
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The only prime for me is rib.
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guy4omaha wrote: Tue Jan 13, 2026 8:34 pm The only prime for me is rib.

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Is it too windy to fly steel today? I noticed the tower crane trolley is all the way against the cab not moving and the crane is pointed in to the wind. The flags on the old FNBO are straight out too.
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The WOWT Children's Hospital Camera has a great view of downtown; the new tower really does add a lot of mass to the skyline.
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