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MadJack wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:17 pm Grow Omaha's Weekly Market Report just came out and has an article about how the height of the new Mutual skyscraper compares to other tall buildings in other cities:


At 677 feet, the Mutual of Omaha tower will be 43 feet taller than Omaha’s First National Tower, which is currently the tallest building in a multi-state region including Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Wyoming and the Dakotas.

Here’s how the Mutual tower will stack up against the current list of Nebraska’s tallest buildings:

Salt Lake City, UT = 422 feet
The Salt Lake City Development News Thread on Skyscraper Forum briefly spoke about how jealous they are of this tower back in Jan/Feb. Someone said that Omaha's 3 tallest would all be significantly taller than any of SLC's and several other asked why Omaha will have two towers that 1.5 times as tall as their tallest.
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Doctor Fate wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:34 pm
MadJack wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:17 pm Grow Omaha's Weekly Market Report just came out and has an article about how the height of the new Mutual skyscraper compares to other tall buildings in other cities:


At 677 feet, the Mutual of Omaha tower will be 43 feet taller than Omaha’s First National Tower, which is currently the tallest building in a multi-state region including Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Wyoming and the Dakotas.

Here’s how the Mutual tower will stack up against the current list of Nebraska’s tallest buildings:

Salt Lake City, UT = 422 feet
The Salt Lake City Development News Thread on Skyscraper Forum briefly spoke about how jealous they are of this tower back in Jan/Feb. Someone said that Omaha's 3 tallest would all be significantly taller than any of SLC's and several other asked why Omaha will have two towers that 1.5 times as tall as their tallest.
Very cool!!
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MadJack wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:41 pm
Doctor Fate wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:34 pm
MadJack wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:17 pm Grow Omaha's Weekly Market Report just came out and has an article about how the height of the new Mutual skyscraper compares to other tall buildings in other cities:


At 677 feet, the Mutual of Omaha tower will be 43 feet taller than Omaha’s First National Tower, which is currently the tallest building in a multi-state region including Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Wyoming and the Dakotas.

Here’s how the Mutual tower will stack up against the current list of Nebraska’s tallest buildings:

Salt Lake City, UT = 422 feet
The Salt Lake City Development News Thread on Skyscraper Forum briefly spoke about how jealous they are of this tower back in Jan/Feb. Someone said that Omaha's 3 tallest would all be significantly taller than any of SLC's and several other asked why Omaha will have two towers that 1.5 times as tall as their tallest.
Very cool!!
Yeah but they have mountains.
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I don't know if this was discussed earlier, but watching the news and seeing the library already getting demolished is disgusting. I understand money talks and Mutual probably told the mayor you need to push this along, but it is frustrating how fast this moved.

Library closing and then in the next breath, Mutual will be moving in and after a couple of naps, bid accepted, now we under-bid so fork over more money and here we are at demo.

No hopes or wishes to preserve, just knock it down and say goodbye to history (from my perspective).
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MadJack wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:17 pm Grow Omaha's Weekly Market Report just came out and has an article about how the height of the new Mutual skyscraper compares to other tall buildings in other cities:


At 677 feet, the Mutual of Omaha tower will be 43 feet taller than Omaha’s First National Tower, which is currently the tallest building in a multi-state region including Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Wyoming and the Dakotas.

Here’s how the Mutual tower will stack up against the current list of Nebraska’s tallest buildings:

Mutual of Omaha Tower = 677 feet

First National Tower (Omaha) = 634 feet

WoodmenLife Tower (Omaha) = 478 feet

State Capitol Building (Lincoln) = 400 feet

Elmwood Tower (Omaha) = 320 feet

Union Pacific Center (Omaha) = 317 feet

First National Center (Omaha) = 295 feet

Here’s how the Mutual Tower will compare to the tallest buildings in other cities in our region:

IDS Tower (Minneapolis) = 792 feet

Republic Plaza (Denver) = 714 feet

Mutual of Omaha Tower = 677 feet

Gateway Arch (St. Louis) = 630 feet

801 Grand (Des Moines) = 630 feet

One Kansas City Place (Kansas City) 623 feet

Here’s a list of some other major U.S. cities that have tallest buildings shorter than Mutual of Omaha’s future headquarters (this list does not include buildings that are proposed or under construction):

Cincinnati, OH = 665 feet

Columbus, OH = 629 feet

Jacksonville, FL = 617 feet

Milwaukee, WI = 600 feet

Tampa, FL = 579 feet

Washington, DC = 555 feet

Louisville, KY = 549 feet

Portland, OR = 546 feet

Raleigh, NC = 538 feet

Buffalo, NY = 529 feet

Nashville, TN = 522 feet

San Diego, CA = 500 feet

Baltimore, MD = 493 feet

Honolulu, HI = 450 feet

Richmond, VA = 449 feet

Orlando, FL = 441 feet

Memphis, TN = 430 feet

Sacramento, CA = 423 feet

Salt Lake City, UT = 422 feet

Albuquerque, NM = 361 feet
Also Tulsa should be listed, they have a lot more tall buildings than Omaha and we are both roughly the same size. Albeit Tulsa's skyline has become somewhat dated. Kansas City is really due for a new skyscraper it has been since the 90's that a building of at least 400 ft was built. I wonder if the new Mutual of O building will spur them to get another skyscraper built, possibly taller than Omaha's.
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Cermak wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:42 pm
MadJack wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:17 pm Grow Omaha's Weekly Market Report just came out and has an article about how the height of the new Mutual skyscraper compares to other tall buildings in other cities:


At 677 feet, the Mutual of Omaha tower will be 43 feet taller than Omaha’s First National Tower, which is currently the tallest building in a multi-state region including Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Kansas, Wyoming and the Dakotas.

Here’s how the Mutual tower will stack up against the current list of Nebraska’s tallest buildings:

Mutual of Omaha Tower = 677 feet

First National Tower (Omaha) = 634 feet

WoodmenLife Tower (Omaha) = 478 feet

State Capitol Building (Lincoln) = 400 feet

Elmwood Tower (Omaha) = 320 feet

Union Pacific Center (Omaha) = 317 feet

First National Center (Omaha) = 295 feet

Here’s how the Mutual Tower will compare to the tallest buildings in other cities in our region:

IDS Tower (Minneapolis) = 792 feet

Republic Plaza (Denver) = 714 feet

Mutual of Omaha Tower = 677 feet

Gateway Arch (St. Louis) = 630 feet

801 Grand (Des Moines) = 630 feet

One Kansas City Place (Kansas City) 623 feet

Here’s a list of some other major U.S. cities that have tallest buildings shorter than Mutual of Omaha’s future headquarters (this list does not include buildings that are proposed or under construction):

Cincinnati, OH = 665 feet

Columbus, OH = 629 feet

Jacksonville, FL = 617 feet

Milwaukee, WI = 600 feet

Tampa, FL = 579 feet

Washington, DC = 555 feet

Louisville, KY = 549 feet

Portland, OR = 546 feet

Raleigh, NC = 538 feet

Buffalo, NY = 529 feet

Nashville, TN = 522 feet

San Diego, CA = 500 feet

Baltimore, MD = 493 feet

Honolulu, HI = 450 feet

Richmond, VA = 449 feet

Orlando, FL = 441 feet

Memphis, TN = 430 feet

Sacramento, CA = 423 feet

Salt Lake City, UT = 422 feet

Albuquerque, NM = 361 feet
Also Tulsa should be listed, they have a lot more tall buildings than Omaha and we are both roughly the same size. Albeit Tulsa's skyline has become somewhat dated. Kansas City is really due for a new skyscraper it has been since the 90's that a building of at least 400 ft was built. I wonder if the new Mutual of O building will spur them to get another skyscraper built, possibly taller than Omaha's.
Once the Mutual Skyscraper is built, Omaha’s 3 tallest and Tulsa’s 3 tallest will almost mirror one another. Both metro’s are pretty much identical in population as well..

KC is due. But like anything else, it will likely take a corporate commitment, like we had here in Omaha, for another significant skyscraper to be built in Kansas City during this post pandemic, recession time..

That Mutual is building this skyscraper tower right now, is just a double down commitment to our city core..and Omaha is very fortunate and will benefit from it…

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Cermak wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:42 pm
Also Tulsa should be listed, they have a lot more tall buildings than Omaha and we are both roughly the same size. Albeit Tulsa's skyline has become somewhat dated. Kansas City is really due for a new skyscraper it has been since the 90's that a building of at least 400 ft was built. I wonder if the new Mutual of O building will spur them to get another skyscraper built, possibly taller than Omaha's.
I've been through Tulsa a few times. And even though they have some nice buildings I always forget they were bigger than Omaha, and are currently about the same size. Tulsa has always somehow felt more like Wichita, than Omaha to me.

But I've also found it nearly impossible to find a city Omaha really feels like a peer to. We have more density than a lot of our peer cities, and even punching up to KC, OKC (Who I consider our closest peer), or Houston we have their density on average, but no where near what makes those cities so terrible: A bajillion miles of sprawl.
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Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:21 pm
But I've also found it nearly impossible to find a city Omaha really feels like a peer to. We have more density than a lot of our peer cities, and even punching up to KC, OKC (Who I consider our closest peer)
I don’t find it impossible. As it relates to a city that “feels” like Omaha, there is no question to me it’s Kansas City MO. They’re our bigger brother and really has the same “feel” as Omaha. Oklahoma City? Maybe. I can draw that conclusion as well. Even from a much larger size and scope, Omaha feels like Dallas in many ways to me..minus the mega metro traffic and other trappings which come with it. I have a TON of family in Dallas and typically am there at least 3 times a year. If I didn’t live in Omaha, I’d likely be living in the DFW metroplex..

From a skyline perspective, as I intimated in an earlier post, in Omaha’s 1 to 1.5 million metropolitan population class, once the Mutual skyscraper is completed, Omaha’s skyline will be right near or at the head of its class..along with Tulsa and Oklahoma City for most impressive skyline…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:44 am
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:21 pm
But I've also found it nearly impossible to find a city Omaha really feels like a peer to. We have more density than a lot of our peer cities, and even punching up to KC, OKC (Who I consider our closest peer)
I don’t find it impossible. As it relates to a city that “feels” like Omaha, there is no question to me it’s Kansas City MO. They’re our bigger brother and really has the same “feel” as Omaha. Oklahoma City? Maybe. I can draw that conclusion as well. Even from a much larger size and scope, Omaha feels like Dallas in many ways to me..minus the mega metro traffic and other trappings which come with it. I have a TON of family in Dallas and typically am there at least 3 times a year. If I didn’t live in Omaha, I’d likely be living in the DFW metroplex..

From a skyline perspective, as I intimated in an earlier post, in Omaha’s 1 to 1.5 million metropolitan population class, once the Mutual skyscraper is completed, Omaha’s skyline will be right near or at the head of its class..along with Tulsa and Oklahoma City for most impressive skyline…

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Comparing skylines for 1-1.5M cities, New Orleans is at or near the top. Our tallest two will be just a bit shorter than NO's but they have a few 500+ and several 400+ footers, in addition to a couple dozen 200+ buildings.

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ita wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:19 pm
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:44 am
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:21 pm
But I've also found it nearly impossible to find a city Omaha really feels like a peer to. We have more density than a lot of our peer cities, and even punching up to KC, OKC (Who I consider our closest peer)
I don’t find it impossible. As it relates to a city that “feels” like Omaha, there is no question to me it’s Kansas City MO. They’re our bigger brother and really has the same “feel” as Omaha. Oklahoma City? Maybe. I can draw that conclusion as well. Even from a much larger size and scope, Omaha feels like Dallas in many ways to me..minus the mega metro traffic and other trappings which come with it. I have a TON of family in Dallas and typically am there at least 3 times a year. If I didn’t live in Omaha, I’d likely be living in the DFW metroplex..

From a skyline perspective, as I intimated in an earlier post, in Omaha’s 1 to 1.5 million metropolitan population class, once the Mutual skyscraper is completed, Omaha’s skyline will be right near or at the head of its class..along with Tulsa and Oklahoma City for most impressive skyline…

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Comparing skylines for 1-1.5M cities, New Orleans is at or near the top. Our tallest two will be just a bit shorter than NO's but they have a few 500+ and several 400+ footers, in addition to a couple dozen 200+ buildings.

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Good catch!..

I forgot about NOLA. Fantastic skyline :thumb:

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The crown and stairwell that run down the center of the building will have LED lights that can be programed so they will join Woodmen making the skyline more colorful at night from time to time.
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iamjacobm wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:26 pm The crown and stairwell that run down the center of the building will have LED lights that can be programed so they will join Woodmen making the skyline more colorful at night from time to time.
That will be pretty cool. Kind of adds of the "iconic-ness" of this tower for Omaha.
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ita wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:19 pm
Comparing skylines for 1-1.5M cities, New Orleans is at or near the top. Our tallest two will be just a bit shorter than NO's but they have a few 500+ and several 400+ footers, in addition to a couple dozen 200+ buildings.

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To be fair, New Orleans was a completely different city/metro prior to hurricane Katrina which is why they have all those buildings
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New Orleans, for metros under 1.5 mil have pretty much the best skyline. Agree was larger city before Katrina.
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CBJason wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:16 pm
ita wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:19 pm
Comparing skylines for 1-1.5M cities, New Orleans is at or near the top. Our tallest two will be just a bit shorter than NO's but they have a few 500+ and several 400+ footers, in addition to a couple dozen 200+ buildings.

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To be fair, New Orleans was a completely different city/metro prior to hurricane Katrina which is why they have all those buildings
Per wikipedia, they were sub-1.5 million prior to Katrina by almost 200k. Maybe they would be plus 1.5 million today if Katrina didn't happen. Notwithstanding, the history as a port city, connections to oil and one of the best tourist destinations in the country certainly help. They have their fair share of tall hotels prominent in their skyline.
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New Orleans has basically been in the 1-1.3 million range since 1970. Omaha was at 540k back then.
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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:44 am
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:21 pm
But I've also found it nearly impossible to find a city Omaha really feels like a peer to. We have more density than a lot of our peer cities, and even punching up to KC, OKC (Who I consider our closest peer)
I don’t find it impossible. As it relates to a city that “feels” like Omaha, there is no question to me it’s Kansas City MO. They’re our bigger brother and really has the same “feel” as Omaha. Oklahoma City? Maybe. I can draw that conclusion as well. Even from a much larger size and scope, Omaha feels like Dallas in many ways to me..minus the mega metro traffic and other trappings which come with it. I have a TON of family in Dallas and typically am there at least 3 times a year. If I didn’t live in Omaha, I’d likely be living in the DFW metroplex..

From a skyline perspective, as I intimated in an earlier post, in Omaha’s 1 to 1.5 million metropolitan population class, once the Mutual skyscraper is completed, Omaha’s skyline will be right near or at the head of its class..along with Tulsa and Oklahoma City for most impressive skyline…

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I meant more that it feels like a true peer to.

KC, Dallas, OKC are certainly cities we share a lot with culturally. But they are also the definition of worst case for what Omaha would be if we were there size.

I always felt like Minneapolis was maybe closer to what Omaha would be if we were on the same scale. And it's a much better aspirational city than some of our other neighbors.

We also remind me a lot of Austin in the 90's. If only we had the nature attractions of central Texas.

And even looking at the Metros closest to us in size (Plus and minus 10)

48 Hartford-East Hartford-Middletown, CT MSA 1,211,906 1,213,531 −0.13% Hartford-East Hartford, CT CSA
49 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY MSA 1,162,336 1,166,902 −0.39% Buffalo-Cheektowaga-Cattaraugus, NY CSA
50 Birmingham-Hoover, AL MSA 1,114,262 1,115,289 −0.09% Birmingham-Hoover-Talladega, AL CSA
51 Grand Rapids-Kentwood, MI MSA 1,091,620 1,087,592 +0.37% Grand Rapids-Kentwood-Muskegon, MI CSA
52 Rochester, NY MSA 1,084,973 1,090,135 −0.47% Rochester-Batavia-Seneca Falls, NY CSA
53 Tucson, AZ MSA 1,052,030 1,043,433 +0.82% Tucson-Nogales, AZ CSA
54 Tulsa, OK MSA 1,023,988 1,015,331 +0.85% Tulsa-Muskogee-Bartlesville, OK CSA
55 Fresno, CA MSA 1,013,581 1,008,654 +0.49% Fresno-Madera-Hanford, CA CSA
56 Urban Honolulu, HI MSA 1,000,890 1,016,508 −1.54%
57 Worcester, MA-CT MSA 978,447 978,529 −0.01% Boston-Worcester-Providence, MA-RI-NH-CT CSA
58 Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA MSA 971,637 967,604 +0.42% Omaha-Council Bluffs-Fremont, NE-IA CSA
59 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT MSA 959,768 957,419 +0.25% New York-Newark, NY-NJ-CT-PA CSA
60 Greenville-Anderson, SC MSA 940,774 928,195 +1.36% Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson, SC CSA
61 Albuquerque, NM MSA 918,259 916,528 +0.19% Albuquerque-Santa Fe-Las Vegas, NM CSA
62 Bakersfield, CA MSA 917,673 909,235 +0.93%
63 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY MSA 899,286 899,262 0.00% Albany-Schenectady, NY CSA
64 Knoxville, TN MSA 893,412 879,773 +1.55% Knoxville-Morristown-Sevierville, TN CSA
65 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX MSA 880,356 870,781 +1.10% McAllen-Edinburg, TX CSA
66 Baton Rouge, LA MSA 871,905 870,569 +0.15%
67 El Paso, TX MSA 871,234 868,859 +0.27% El Paso-Las Cruces, TX-NM CSA
68 Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA-NJ MSA 865,310 861,889 +0.40%


I am not super familiar with a lot of them, but the ones I know mostly feel smaller, and are much less dense.

Honolulu maybe being the biggest exception. That city is just amazing. But it has the benefit of being on an island and getting a ton of international tourism.
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Athomsfere wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 10:19 am
Omaha Cowboy wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:44 am
Athomsfere wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:21 pm
But I've also found it nearly impossible to find a city Omaha really feels like a peer to. We have more density than a lot of our peer cities, and even punching up to KC, OKC (Who I consider our closest peer)
I don’t find it impossible. As it relates to a city that “feels” like Omaha, there is no question to me it’s Kansas City MO. They’re our bigger brother and really has the same “feel” as Omaha. Oklahoma City? Maybe. I can draw that conclusion as well. Even from a much larger size and scope, Omaha feels like Dallas in many ways to me..minus the mega metro traffic and other trappings which come with it. I have a TON of family in Dallas and typically am there at least 3 times a year. If I didn’t live in Omaha, I’d likely be living in the DFW metroplex..

From a skyline perspective, as I intimated in an earlier post, in Omaha’s 1 to 1.5 million metropolitan population class, once the Mutual skyscraper is completed, Omaha’s skyline will be right near or at the head of its class..along with Tulsa and Oklahoma City for most impressive skyline…

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I meant more that it feels like a true peer to.

KC, Dallas, OKC are certainly cities we share a lot with culturally. But they are also the definition of worst case for what Omaha would be if we were there size.

I always felt like Minneapolis was maybe closer to what Omaha would be if we were on the same scale. And it's a much better aspirational city than some of our other neighbors.

We also remind me a lot of Austin in the 90's. If only we had the nature attractions of central Texas.

49 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY MSA 1,162,336
51 Grand Rapids-Kentwood, MI MSA 1,091,620
52 Rochester, NY MSA 1,084,973
54 Tulsa, OK MSA 1,023,988
58 Omaha-Council Bluffs, NE-IA MSA 971,637
61 Albuquerque, NM MSA 918,259
I’d say it’s really difficult to find that “true peer” or “twin” for any city..

From a population standpoint, I’ve narrowed down your list to the cities I would consider Omaha a peer to. A couple of these (Tulsa, Grand Rapids) are closer to the “feel” of Omaha. Maybe Buffalo/Rochester too..Albuquerque? I really like that city/metro. While it’s population mirrors Omaha, it has a completely different “feel” imo..

I do agree with your Austin TX comment. Omaha today does remind me of 1999-2000 Austin- right when their boom really started. Omaha is on a somewhat similar doorstep/path..not a replication however, lol..

Minneapolis from an “aspirational” standpoint? Sure. I’d add Austin and probably Nashville too..

From a pure “feel” standpoint, there’s no question to me Omaha and Kansas City are peers in this regard. They just feel the same. Big brother/Younger Brother relationship..

Since this is a skyline thread, specific to the Mutual of Omaha tower, I’ll bring the discussion back- From these cities listed in my post, I give Omaha AND Tulsa the nod for most impressive skyline (even after the Mutual is built)- Then Buffalo/Grand Rapids/Rochester/Albuquerque in that order…

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Why are they just doing 677 feet and not making it even at 700 feet? Just seems really lame that it will be the same visual height as the First National tower just slightly taller which no one will notice.
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OmahaFan wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:14 pm Why are they just doing 677 feet and not making it even at 700 feet? Just seems really lame that it will be the same visual height as the First National tower just slightly taller which no one will notice.

That might be on purpose, in deference to not knocking FNB Tower off that visual “throne”.

I’m pretty ok with that though - increases the likelihood we get a second tower on the block east.
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OmahaFan wrote: Sun Oct 16, 2022 5:14 pm Why are they just doing 677 feet and not making it even at 700 feet? Just seems really lame that it will be the same visual height as the First National tower just slightly taller which no one will notice.
Other than "because vanity" why would they add any height? If this is all they need, then another 2-4 stories doesn't exactly make sense.

Although, we'd all love the extra 23 feet of height too.
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That's the height it turned out to be. Believe me even at 677 ft it's going to have a huge effect on Omaha's skyline. Even a 500 footer would have a huge impact on Omaha's skyline.
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There are metropolitan areas twice the size of Omaha that have 1 or Zero 600+ foot skyscrapers..Once Mutual is built, Omaha will have 2..which is pretty amazing for a 1 million population metro..

*Only* 677 feet? I’ll gladly take and embrace it with open arms. Omaha is fortunate to have a F500 company like Mutual double down and commit to such a significant HQ’s office tower right in the heart of our downtown core…

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Omaha Cowboy wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:35 am There are metropolitan areas twice the size of Omaha that have 1 or Zero 600+ foot skyscrapers..Once Mutual is built, Omaha will have 2..which is pretty amazing for a 1 million population metro..

*Only* 677 feet? I’ll gladly take and embrace it with open arms. Omaha is fortunate to have a F500 company like Mutual double down and commit to such a significant HQ’s office tower right in the heart of our downtown core…

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Agreed! Omaha has some very great companies helping keep downtown vibrant. I wouldn't even be too surprised if Omaha has the better skyline before I die... In 200 years or so optimistically.
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Has the construction been awarded to a primary contractor yet?
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Skyline had WallStreet Tower been built…
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Stan wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:29 am Has the construction been awarded to a primary contractor yet?
Yes. From the W-H story last week:

“JE Dunn Construction Group, a major construction company whose primary office is in Kansas City, is the general contractor.”..

The complete story link:

https://omaha.com/news/local/mutual-of- ... ee2c3.html

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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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WouldaCouldaShoulda wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:07 am Skyline had WallStreet Tower been built…
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There is a heartbreaking image...

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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Athomsfere wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:22 am
WouldaCouldaShoulda wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:07 am Skyline had WallStreet Tower been built…
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There is a heartbreaking image...

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Agreed..

Hopefully the city can get a similar tall enhancing building- in that 350-400 FT range at 1416 Dodge, to compliment our 3 tallest and round out the skyline even more…

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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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WouldaCouldaShoulda wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:07 am Skyline had WallStreet Tower been built…
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Wow, that would have been amazing!
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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I really believe it's a when, not an if for a residential tower in that 350 range to be built in Omaha. Des Moines has revived talks for their 33 story tower to be built, and in my competitive mind the race is on between the cities for the next sizable residential tower.
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Flyer14 wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:53 pm I really believe it's a when, not an if for a residential tower in that 350 range to be built in Omaha. Des Moines has revived talks for their 33 story tower to be built, and in my competitive mind the race is on between the cities for the next sizable residential tower.
Yeah, we really have to beat DSM. Lincoln has slightly more density than us, so I am willing to let them get a tower before us... But not DSM!

Come on Omaha developers, don't make us crowd source this! :shock:
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Coming from the guy who thought the skate ribbon was on an incline I'm still not so sure the difference in height won't be noticeable. Linkin5 did provide the elevation differences and while this building may not tower over FNBO, a 17 foot difference (in appearance) might still be readily apparent from many views. It's very much a welcome addition.
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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omahahawk wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 3:40 pm Linkin5 did provide the elevation differences and while this building may not tower over FNBO, a 17 foot difference (in appearance) might still be readily apparent from many views. It's very much a welcome addition.
Agreed..

In the end, as one of the charter members of the “height obsessed club”, we should all be grateful our skyline is getting yet another skyline defining skyscraper..and 677 feet to boot..

I don’t think some really understand or appreciate how truly rare it is for metropolitan areas in the 1 to 1.5 million population range (like Omaha) to have such a significant skyscraper about to break ground in its downtown core..

Places like Austin (albeit a 2 million plus population metro) are a rare anomaly..Ask similar sized Kansas City or San Antonio if they would like to see Austin share in the bounty of its highrise construction boom with them..

From an Omaha peer city standpoint..Ask Louisville, Tulsa, Albuquerque, Grand Rapids, Buffalo or Tucson if they'd take the Mutual Skyscraper built within their downtown cores…

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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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WouldaCouldaShoulda wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:07 am Skyline had WallStreet Tower been built…
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Expert Level - can you add HDR to it, too?
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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From the GLM the new tower will look like it's more than 700' tall. The perspective from the new mall will be awesome, especially now that it is not a sunken moat. Hoping Mutual announces something good for the block in front of the new tower before they have finished construction. Despite the obvious advantage of having this block for construction for staging I'd hate to see it be a gravel lot for a nearly a decade.
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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ItsAllAboutMe wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:18 am From the GLM the new tower will look like it's more than 700' tall. The perspective from the new mall will be awesome, especially now that it is not a sunken moat. Hoping Mutual announces something good for the block in front of the new tower before they have finished construction. Despite the obvious advantage of having this block for construction for staging I'd hate to see it be a gravel lot for a nearly a decade.
They said they would use it as an extension to the GLM until they decide to build or sell the lot.
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Kansas City Skyline still looks good. Even with no major skyscrapers built in last 30 years. The views of KC from the northside are my favorite.
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Cermak wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:56 am Image

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Kansas City Skyline still looks good. Even with no major skyscrapers built in last 30 years. The views of KC from the northside are my favorite.
Indeed. Helps that they have about 10 buildings in size between the Woodmen and the UP building in height.
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Re: Mutual of Omaha Tower (14th & Farnam)

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Louie wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:00 am
Cermak wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:56 am Image

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Kansas City Skyline still looks good. Even with no major skyscrapers built in last 30 years. The views of KC from the northside are my favorite.
Indeed. Helps that they have about 10 buildings in size between the Woodmen and the UP building in height.
Agreed. Density>height.